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<span style="color:#888">What you have in your user page regarding '''japple''' is considered harassment, is it not?</span>
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|<span style="color:#060">You need to put things onto separate pages. I'll do a few for you so you can see how it works.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
<span style="color:#888">I've taken the liberty to temporarily remove what you have there.  If you felt that this change is inappropriate, feel free to change it re-revise it.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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== Pages? ==
  
Please read what I have added to what you removed from my Wiki profile.
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Are you saying that each section needs to be on a seperate page by itself.  If so how do you make a new page.
:<span style="color:#060">What you have posted, while sourcing the target player's bio, is clear harassment and unwanted attention. However, I believe the real issue is whether or not the [http://forum.fallensword.com/rules.html Forum rules] apply on the wiki and have submitted a ticket asking about it.</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">You can either click on the red links throughout your page which will take you to the new page to copy the code to, or type <tt>User:DavidAHare/Page Name</tt> into the search box.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
:<span style="color:#060">If HCS says the forum rules do apply on the wiki, then what you posted will have to be removed.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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:<span style="color:#060">There are a few things which you do not need to copy to any other pages... things like [[Template:AHplayer]] and [[Template:EnhancementBar]] and [[Template:Inventory]]. These are all used by putting <tt><nowiki>{{templateName}}</nowiki></tt> in the code. The instructions how to use them are on those specific pages.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Layout Issues ==
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<span style="color:#060">I am trying to track down the problem with your main page. I've gone through all your welcome page stuff, so that leaves all the tabs and your sig to check for errors.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
If I have to take what I believe is not harrassment but reposting what is already out there on Fallen Sword profiles then I will repost it on my own web page/site.  I am also going by this statement "You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource." which is at the bottom of the editing area.
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:<span style="color:#060">Because you are naming another player in conjunction with negative accusations, this is essentially the same as a "wall of shame" which is not allowed on this wiki. Because of that, it needs to be removed. What you post on your own websites is entirely up to you since they are not owned or operated by HCS.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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==Information I Copied From [[User_talk:Belgrave]] Page That I wanted a Reference to==
  
It is not negative information when it happened to my ally.  He did a bounty on the guy and the guy retliated by placing a bounty on the my ally and then had the persons that did the bounty on my ally delevel him and paid the persons that did the bounty to do it.
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:<span style="color:#060">Take a deep breath, relax, and read #2 and #3 of ''[[User:Belgrave/Wiki Hints|Belgrave's Basic Words of Wiki Wisdom]]''. I know there have been some things on here which took me forever to figure out how to do, especially [[Template:ItemBox]]. I think I spent 2 months before I figured out a way to make that look the way it looks now.</span>
  
I have as the first person in the discussion sent a ticket to HCS about the information you removed which you are not a staff member of HCS.
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:<span style="color:#060">You are still a guild founder whether you started the guild or if you were promoted to that position. The notice on my page was actually inspired by what someone else had in their player bio. I basically took that and made my own changes to it. The other things on the side were copied from somewhere else on the wiki, but I had initially written that too.</span>
:<span style="color:#888">If you really feel that submitting a ticket will prove you right and that you want to spread word that you dislike another player, then I think that it is very selfish. I'll tell you what I think.  I think you should learn to read forum rules because they apply here as well.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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Here is what the second person in this discussion posted in this discussion and I have done the same.  "What you have posted, while sourcing the target player's bio, is clear harassment and unwanted attention. However, I believe the real issue is whether or not the Forum rules apply on the wiki and have submitted a ticket asking about it."
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:<span style="color:#060">Item images can all be found on the [[Item Images|item image pages]].</span>
  
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:<span style="color:#060">I did make a number of changes on some of your pages while trying to figure out what was wrong with your main page, but those were inconsequential and didn't do anything. On the pages where the fixes were made, I did leave short comments to give some idea of what I did. You can also go into the page history to see the differences in the code side by side.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
I have not said anything negative about anyone.  I have only said what has happen to my ally and what a member of his guyild has messaged me.  But it seems that on here you can not say the truth about someone's playing attitude towards other players.  But you can delete public information that one person or persons feel that is harrassing but they them selves are doing the same thing, harrassing, by deleting the publicized information that has been copied from profile bios in the game Fallen Sword itself.
 
:<span style="color:#888">The last time I checked, hypocracy was not against the rules.  I don't want this arguement to be prolonged, please end this here and if you have submitted a ticket, please let HCS handle it.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
 
  
:<span style="color:#060">I know I am not an employee of HCS and probably never will be. However, they did ask me to be a [http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php?title=Special%3AListusers&username=&group=sysop&limit=50 sysop] on this wiki and essentially fill the same role as a forum moderator.</span>
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Information I want to keep on hand to remember.
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:<span style="color:#060">Sit back... find something else to do... contribute to other areas of the wiki. There are many pages that need updated. Immerse yourself in the code, see how it works, and try becoming an expert. The [[Helping Out]] page can offer you a place to get started. Also, use my help links. I'd be embarrassed if I counted how many times I still need to look things up!
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:<span style="color:#060">It is not harassment to ask that a post defaming another player be removed. If you had posted the same thing on the forum, it would have been deleted and potentially resulted in a ban.</span>
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==About Your Test Page==
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<span style="color:#888">Even you said it; the Preview button is your friend.  You copied that straight off of Belgrave's tips, and you placed it in your profile.  Use it, instead of making so many edits to a single page.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
  
:<span style="color:#060">It does not matter if you copied it straight from his (or anyone else's) profile page, leveling accusations at another player, whether true or not, is not and never has been allowed, to include linking to such material. What you have now is essentially a link to a 'wall of shame' which the front page of the wiki clearly states is not allowed here.</span>
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==Testing of Pages in other Browsers==
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<div style="border:8px dotted #f00;width:100%;text-align:center"><span style="color:#060">I would highly recommend you look at your pages and test them in Firefox if you aren't already. If you don't want to check it in Firefox, you may consider removing <tt>-moz-border-radius:15px;</tt> from all the code. It rounds the corners, but only in Firefox.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}</div>
  
:<span style="color:#060">You're entitled to your opinion, but the Fallen Sword community is quite large so the rules may be more restrictive than you would like in order to provide a common environment which all members of the Fallen Sword community can enjoy. As far as I am concerned, this has been taken far enough and have asked HCS to intervene.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I am using the Opera Browser which is based on the the same program as Firefox. I am trying to setup a  test page to test the code when I build something and some how I am screwing the code up.  I copied copied the code from another page I have which is the same way I was trying to set up the page.
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:<span style="color:#060">Opera does not show the rounded corners that Firefox does. I actually test my pages in Firefox, IE, and sometimes in Opera also. I've noticed on several occasions that some things will work the same in one or two of the browsers and different in the third and that it's not always the same two browsers all the time.</span>
  
\As you have said you sent a ticket to HCS well I sent one also.
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:<span style="color:#060">It is highly possible that you are not copying some essential part of the code. Break it up, see how the tables are nested, pay attention to the wikicode, use the 'Preview' button constantly. It's a very detailed layout (even for me) so it's going to take alot of effort to find the errors.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
It seems to me that some people can post anything they want and get away with it but when some one copies that information and reposts it they get in trouble for it.  As afar as I am concern here certain people have the freedom to say anything and do anything they want on their profiles but other people get shut out because they do not think the way some people think.  I will not put the information back in my profile here but I have added it to my personal web page and have add the link to it on my personal wiki profile.  I do have one question her for the 2 people who have been in this discussionHow is it alright to have it in the profile bio in the Fallen Sword Game but it can not be reposted here?  I am not trying to make any one mad and I am not trying to get my wiki profiloe deleted but I would like to know why there are 2 different rules for the game profiles and then the wiki profile.  Please answer me this question and I will not go any further with this.
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Right now what has me frustrated is that I have a 2nd red border around section B.  I may have to stop and do as in your WIKI Tips section and just walk away from it and come back to it later.  I will also test my profile out in the other Browsers also to see what difference if any will come up.
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It is the next day after falling asleep in front of the computer.  I found out where my extra red border line was coming from.  Now I have to figure out why the top section shrunk after removing what I had in section b of my testing page.  I am still trying to stay away from my profile since I am falling asleep as I type this little statement.  I will talk to you later.
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I now have a brown border along with the white that I set up myselfI still can not figure out what I am doing wrong.  I am going to stop and go play away and do some other stuff.

Latest revision as of 03:04, 12 September 2008


About Your Test Page

Even you said it; the Preview button is your friend. You copied that straight off of Belgrave's tips, and you placed it in your profile. Use it, instead of making so many edits to a single page.
                 CHiNback - [ Talk - Message - PM ]


Testing of Pages in other Browsers

I would highly recommend you look at your pages and test them in Firefox if you aren't already. If you don't want to check it in Firefox, you may consider removing -moz-border-radius:15px; from all the code. It rounds the corners, but only in Firefox.
 Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

I am using the Opera Browser which is based on the the same program as Firefox. I am trying to setup a test page to test the code when I build something and some how I am screwing the code up. I copied copied the code from another page I have which is the same way I was trying to set up the page.

Opera does not show the rounded corners that Firefox does. I actually test my pages in Firefox, IE, and sometimes in Opera also. I've noticed on several occasions that some things will work the same in one or two of the browsers and different in the third and that it's not always the same two browsers all the time.
It is highly possible that you are not copying some essential part of the code. Break it up, see how the tables are nested, pay attention to the wikicode, use the 'Preview' button constantly. It's a very detailed layout (even for me) so it's going to take alot of effort to find the errors.
 Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Right now what has me frustrated is that I have a 2nd red border around section B. I may have to stop and do as in your WIKI Tips section and just walk away from it and come back to it later. I will also test my profile out in the other Browsers also to see what difference if any will come up.


It is the next day after falling asleep in front of the computer. I found out where my extra red border line was coming from. Now I have to figure out why the top section shrunk after removing what I had in section b of my testing page. I am still trying to stay away from my profile since I am falling asleep as I type this little statement. I will talk to you later.

I now have a brown border along with the white that I set up myself. I still can not figure out what I am doing wrong. I am going to stop and go play away and do some other stuff.