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I deal with mostly wiki and occasional forum issues.
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<span style="color:#888">-Stares in awe-</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
 
<span style="color:#888">-Stares in awe-</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
 
:<span style="color:#060">I got bored... I'm really just waiting for Extension:Parserfunctions before I do many more content edits and I didn't want to take much time to do maps today.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
 
:<span style="color:#060">I got bored... I'm really just waiting for Extension:Parserfunctions before I do many more content edits and I didn't want to take much time to do maps today.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
 
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==Help in building a wiki profile==
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I think I have found out how this thing works.  I would like to do something like what you have done on your Wiki profile.  I am not wanting to copy yours exactly but do the same thing so mine does not get any longer where you have to scroll to get to the section you want.  I  also copied the guild structure code and placed it on my profile but I wanted to add some more to it so it would be easier for the other guild  members to know what it would take to upgrade it, the upkeep and to build the structure.   I have some knowledge of html coding  and have found out that there are some differences in the coding for the wiki. Also how can I get or make a signature that I can put at the end of my postings.
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[http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/User_talk:DavidAHare/ DavidAHare]
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== Help with User Page ==
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<div style="height: 300px; overflow:auto;">
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<big>'''Question'''</big>  <br><br>  Could you look at Template <nowiki>{{DAH Borrowed}}</nowiki> and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.<br>
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1 Make my information the primary information in the template.<br>
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2 Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.<br>
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3 Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member.  For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare  Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
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:<span style="color:#060">It can be done with [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions Extention:ParserFunctions]. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are:</span>
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{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
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{{#ifeq: <text 1> | <text 2> | <code if equal> | <code if not equal> }}
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:<span style="color:#060">As for the name/id part, that would use a switch:</span>
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{{#switch: <comparison value>
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:<span style="color:#060">You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for [[Template:Creature|creatures]] and [[Template:Item|items]].</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Thank You.  I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.<br><br>
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<big>'''Question'''</big> <br><br>
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I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be.  If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there.  I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. [http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Desolate_Lands Desolate Lands Travel Map]<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
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<big>'''Question'''</big> <br><br>
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I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.
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Template:StatBox --- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
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Template:BPSlots6
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Template:BPSlots7 -- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
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I am wondering why the difference between the 2.  The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.<br>
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{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
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:<span style="color:#060">Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, [[Template:StatBox]] was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the <tt>name</tt> parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the <tt>link-1</tt> parameter, or to [[Backpack]] if that parameter is not given.</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">I am assuming you want to give [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc the same ability to display stats as [[Template:StatBox]], but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more [[Template:StatBox]]'s side by side and see what happens.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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::Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup.  I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different. Again thank you.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
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== Modify the "New Page"-page ==
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It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)
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== Min MAX Crafted statistics ==
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Hello, I don't think this is a good idea for 2 reasons. First, the pages code is becoming too complex and second, the quality label of a craft is related to the total gain compared to the uncrafted item. So basicaly, for most items with multiple crafted statistics, the minimum value for any stat is the bas euncrafted value for up to average or good items. I think it is better to give a "typical" value (and warn than actual values may vary...). Well, just my own .02€.
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-[[User:Phoxtrot|Phoxtrot]] 22:10, 16 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#aaa">This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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::<span style="color:#060">It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside [[Template:Item]], but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Template:StatBox ==
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<font color="blue">As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)<br>
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But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.<br>
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But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:<br>
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Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.<br>
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Perhaps there is a way i haven't thought of.<br>
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(If you need an example of the described problem, take a look at [[The_white_dragon#Guild_Tagged_Super_Elite_Sets]] and try to use your Template StatBox instead of The White Dragon ItemBox2.)</font>
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{{PDASig}}
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:<span style="color:#060">I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any <tt>z-index</tt> into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means [[Template:StatBox]] cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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::<font color="blue">yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...<br>
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::but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.</font>{{PDASig}}
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:::<span style="color:#060">That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to [[Template:StatBoxStat]] and then pass it to there from another parameter in [[Template:StatBox]]. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike [[Template:EnhancementBar]]).</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Voodoo Zombie Rogue ==
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Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.
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== Moving Pages ==
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I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one
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http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/The_Hunted_Cow_Tippers/Gear_201-300
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[[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -[[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)
  
:<span style="color:#060">There are instructions how to make your own signature at [[:Category:User Signatures]]. Also, you use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to sign your comments and it will generate a basic signature (with timestamp) if you don't have a special one set up.</span>
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== Champions ==
  
:<span style="color:#060">I'm glad you have some basic html knowledge since that will make it much easier for you. Wiki markup is essentially the same as html but replaces some of the tags with abbreviated versions. I have links to many basic wiki help pages partway down on my [[User:Belgrave|user page]] and recommend you get to know at least some of the basic formatting.</span>
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I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?
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:<span style="color:#060">You need to add <tt>|rarity=Champion</tt> for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
:<span style="color:#060">Concerning your page, I'm guessing you want to have tabs at the top the way I do. I do this by having a subpage called [[User:Belgrave/Tabs]] with the tabs and then putting <tt><nowiki>{{User:Belgrave/Tabs}}</nowiki></tt> (format to include it just like a template) at the top of every page I want the tabs on. Every tab then links to my user page or one of my user subpages. Each of those pages has the basic table that contains everything and inside it I include other subpages the same way I'm including the tabs. This makes it easy to setup the pages and keeps the code easily editable. Keep in mind, one of the easiest ways to put together a page is to copy someone else's and then edit it to fit your needs.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Thanks.
  
== Continuation of my previous subject. ==
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== Typos ==
  
Item 1:  I have copied the code for your profile and some of it I want to use but I need to know how you prefwer I give you credit.<br>
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Seems to be a popular typo.
Item 2:  The section on vandelism I would like to use but I do not think I can get some one banned or have their profile deleted so could you give me some Ideas of what to put in that section.<br>
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Item 3:  There are parts in your profile that do not have your name in the title and I was wondering if I need to copy the code and then paste the code into my profile  or is it on the wiki already.<br>
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Item 4:  The Quest Book  I have looked at the code that another player has on their profile and it is smaller but it still lists all the Quest as far as I can tell.  I then looked at your code and it lists all of the Quests as far as I can tell and your code is laonger with the Quest list.<br>
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Item 5:  Is there a way to be notified when someone adds to the profile and or the discussions.
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I will work on the coding for awhile but this is what I have for now.<br><br>
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[[User:DavidAHare|DavidAHare]] 01:13, 21 August 2008 (BST)
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I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.
:<span style="color:#060">1. Honestly, no credit is needed, but it is appreciated. If you want, a small note at the bottom saying something like "Elements of this page were influenced by [[User:Belgrave|Belgrave]]" is fine.</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">2. You're welcome to change any of the wording in anything from my user pages that you copy. The section on vandalism I have on [[User:Belgrave/Notices]] is more against general vandalism of the wiki, not just against editing my personal pages. Keep in mind, others may edit out anything they think is inappropriate or may fix errors and that is not necessarily vandalism.</span>
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Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves??  - zillerz
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:<span style="color:#aaa">It's Angal.</span>
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:<span style="color:#aaa">And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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::<span style="color:#060">If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.</span><pre>#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]</pre>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
:<span style="color:#060">3. The parts in the profile that don't have the <tt>User:Belgrave/</tt> in front of them are probably [[:Category:Templates|regular templates]] that I made for general use on none user pages also. Examples of these would be [[Template:Inventory]] or [[Template:EnhancementBar]]. Most of those will have instructions how to use them on their specific pages.</span>
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The name for this relic has been Leora Becon
  
:<span style="color:#060">4. [[Template:QuestBook]] is a template which can be updated on the template side to always show the most recently added quests without breaking any of the coding on the pages that use the template. The way it works is that the only parameters you have to include are the ones for the quests you want to show as being complete or incomplete. Everything else will default to the empty box. As with the other templates, I have instructions on the template page.</span>
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It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz
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:<span style="color:#060">Check the [http://www.fallensword.com/index.php?cmd=guild&subcmd=reliclist in-game relic list], it shows it as Leora Becon.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
:<span style="color:#060">5. If someone adds to [[User:DavidAHare]] or [[User talk:DavidAHare]], you will be notified by a "you have new messages" message at the top of the wiki. You can add other pages to that list by adding them to your watch list. One of the tabs at the top of ever page will let you add a page to your watch list, and if you want to add any page you edit, there is a check box right above the 'save page' which will allow you to add it as you save it.</span>
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Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z
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:<span style="color:#060">If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
:<span style="color:#060">I hope that about answers your questions. I look forward to seeing what you can cook up, and if you need any fixing/fine tuning of the code, you know where to ask!</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Mysterious Portal Template ==
  
== Putting comments in the coding with Wiki code ==
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I was dreading adding in all the gold costs by hand, so very nice. 
  
I was wondering how you would code comments in the coding to make the coding more organized.  I am going to try and use the regular comment coding to see if it will work.
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However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak.  I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template givesNot a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals
:<span style="color:#060">Regular comment tags work. There is no wiki equivalent of that.</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Have you edited some of my pages ==
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Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it.  Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth.  Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?
  
I was just wondering if you were helping me to edit some of my pages.  I also trying to figure out where and how to remove your profile pic and replace it with mine.  I am still trying to get all of your stuff out but I may miss some.  I ahave some additions to the profile so I will need some help with that.  I was trying to fingure out how to get rid of the part about the Synop.  Thanks for removing it for me.
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Thanks for looking into it. - Tals
:<span style="color:#060">All the images in there are taken from the game. There are instructions how to link to the in-game images at [[:Category:Images]]. I did make a few edits to a few of your things, specifically removing the "wiki sysop" from your sig since you are not one, and I had removed "Deletes" and "Blocks" since you cannot have any unless you are a sysop, but you put them back. Something else I would recommend is complete removal of the Wiki Tips section since it almost seems you're using my tips as your own. If you want, I can remove it for you. If you want to add something to your profile, that's fine with me. The pages and subpages are all just a basic table format so all you have to do is copy one and save it on a new page with the new changes and include it on whatever main page the way all the other sections are included.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Editing Pages ==
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== hi ==
  
Concerning the Delete and block sections, I was trying to use the same code but goto something else not related to Block and delete.  Concerning the Wiki Tips I was not trying to use them as my own.  I just had not made it to the page to add a reference that these tips came from you. I figured out how to make a second tab line in the profile, but there is a small problem with the background color.  Is there a way that only I and you can only edit a couple of my pages.  On these pages is information that I have so that the Guild Founders can see what has been given me by the other guild members.  The other page concerns Items that I have for Sale and guild locked.  I have some more questions but I will have to ask them latter.
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i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki
:<span style="color:#060">There is no way to make it so only select wiki users can edit a page (unless I protect a page which restricts editing to sysops only). The problems you are running into are because the tabs are essentially a template and the main pages need to give it a parameter which designates which tab to change the color for. On my user page I have a link to a help page about templates. I recommend you read that to better understand out how they work.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== New Item Template ==
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== missing info/missing crafted ==
  
I see you've made a new item template... working hard as ever, huh!
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I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max. Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --[[User:Arieh|Arieh]] 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:09, 22 August 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">I decided I didn't want to wait for HCS to get around to installing Extension:Parserfunctions (I still don't know how "next week" translates into Hooftime), so I made an improved layout based on what [[Template:Item]] would do if we had the extension. This has several enhancements over the previous layout: stat/enhancement alignment, removal of the "AH Price Range" section, and several other changes. The section supposed to link to Hellforged stats will remain unavailable until we do get the parserfunctions though.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Fallen Sword Wiki Navigation Bar on side of page ==
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::There is such category now: [[:Category:Needs Stats]] which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put <nowiki>{{Needs Craft Stats}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Needs Stats}}</nowiki> on top of the page. --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)
  
Can You tell me why the Fallen Sword Wiki Navagation Bar on the side of my profile is at the bottom of my page?  Also can you give me an itedea of how to fix it to get it to where it is supposed to be.  I have add some more stuff and do welcome your input on how my profile is going.  I also know I have a few more items of yours to replace with mine.  On some of the stuff that is yours I am going to add a line saying so since I like the information and also since I do not have my own at this time.  If it is alright with you the guild founder section is another section I will be keeping and I will be adding to it.  I will be adding a line to it as well giving you recognition for it.  I do appreciate all the help and suggestions you have given me so far in this endevor.
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== Quest Items ==
  
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there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it.
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http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm
  
{| align="center" width="100%" style="border:1px solid #cd9e4b; background-color: #f6d284; -moz-border-radius:15px" | <small>'''Current Signature:'''</small><br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}<br><small><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[:Category:User Signatures|make your own]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small>
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:<span style="color:#060">I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals</span><br>
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Latest revision as of 10:03, 5 July 2009

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I got bored... I'm really just waiting for Extension:Parserfunctions before I do many more content edits and I didn't want to take much time to do maps today.
 Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 




Help with User Page

Question

Could you look at Template {{DAH Borrowed}} and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.
1 Make my information the primary information in the template.
2 Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.
3 Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member. For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.
   DavidAHare,Talk Message PM 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

It can be done with Extention:ParserFunctions. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are:
{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
{{#ifeq: <text 1> | <text 2> | <code if equal> | <code if not equal> }}
As for the name/id part, that would use a switch:
{{#switch: <comparison value>
| <value1> = <result1>
| <value2> = <result2>
| ...
| #default = <default result>
}}
You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for creatures and items.
 Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Thank You. I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.


Question

I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be. If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there. I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. Desolate Lands Travel Map
   DavidAHare,Talk Message PM 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


Question

I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.


Template:StatBox --- [{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>

Template:BPSlots6 Template:BPSlots7 -- [{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>


I am wondering why the difference between the 2. The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.
   DavidAHare,Talk Message PM 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, Template:StatBox was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the name parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. Template:BPSlots6/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the link-1 parameter, or to Backpack if that parameter is not given.
I am assuming you want to give Template:BPSlots6/7/etc the same ability to display stats as Template:StatBox, but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more Template:StatBox's side by side and see what happens.
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Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup. I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different. Again thank you.
   DavidAHare,Talk Message PM 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Modify the "New Page"-page

It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --Isakus 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)

Min MAX Crafted statistics

Hello, I don't think this is a good idea for 2 reasons. First, the pages code is becoming too complex and second, the quality label of a craft is related to the total gain compared to the uncrafted item. So basicaly, for most items with multiple crafted statistics, the minimum value for any stat is the bas euncrafted value for up to average or good items. I think it is better to give a "typical" value (and warn than actual values may vary...). Well, just my own .02€.

-Phoxtrot 22:10, 16 September 2008 (BST)

This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.
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It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside Template:Item, but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.
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Template:StatBox

As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)
But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.
But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:
Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.
Perhaps there is a way i haven't thought of.
(If you need an example of the described problem, take a look at The_white_dragon#Guild_Tagged_Super_Elite_Sets and try to use your Template StatBox instead of The White Dragon ItemBox2.)

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I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any z-index into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means Template:StatBox cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.
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yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...
but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.PDASig.PNG
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That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to Template:StatBoxStat and then pass it to there from another parameter in Template:StatBox. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike Template:EnhancementBar).
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Voodoo Zombie Rogue

Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.

Moving Pages

I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one

http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/The_Hunted_Cow_Tippers/Gear_201-300

Sinho6 02:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)

That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.
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Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -Sinho6 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Champions

I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?

You need to add |rarity=Champion for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.
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Thanks.

Typos

Seems to be a popular typo.

I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.

Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves?? - zillerz

It's Angal.
And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.
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If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.
#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]
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The name for this relic has been Leora Becon

It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz

Check the in-game relic list, it shows it as Leora Becon.
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Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z

If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!
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Mysterious Portal Template

I was dreading adding in all the gold costs by hand, so very nice.

However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak. I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template gives. Not a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals

I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.
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Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it. Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?

Thanks for looking into it. - Tals

hi

i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki

missing info/missing crafted

I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max. Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --Arieh 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

There is such category now: Category:Needs Stats which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put {{Needs Craft Stats}} or {{Needs Stats}} on top of the page. --Isakus 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Quest Items

there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it. http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm

I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals