User talk:CHiNback

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Know of any good Hell Forge calculating sites we could link to from the items pages similar to how we're linking the items to the auction house?

I'm also thinking of moving the lengthy tables of items and their stats off the item category pages so the categories don't take as long to load and you don't have to scroll all the way to the bottom but it would still allow sorting stats on a separate page. Any suggestions for this?
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

I don't think that hellforge calculator was updated to take into account the latest hellforge changes, but it might be usable to an extent. That idea might have to be put on hold until someone else makes a decently usable one.

I was thinking it might be best to have all of that specific type of item on the page, mostly so people can compare stats, but also because there are a few items which are clearly the best of that type of item for more than 50-60 levels such as the Rune of Decay. It would definitely be a long page, but if sorted by every 10 levels the way it is now, it should be usable. Would we want other related pages such as "Helmet Images"? If so, I think we would do something similar to the item category navigation template but for that specific item type...
Item Category • Sortable Item List • Item Images • Etc.

Also, I was working with the creature images and I think about 15 images per page (3 across, 5 down) would work best. The problem is that the numbers only work to 546 and then they need that long number/letter combo filename and I'm not sure how exactly to go about finding all of those and putting them into easily organized pages. Any suggestions with that?
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

I'll work on getting those creature images. That site does show the best available items by stats, but it only goes up to lvl 300 and will not be updated anymore. So, I'll put together something for the helmets page and we can see how that works out.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

w00t

...waiting for you to write a "Best Equipment for Level 166" guide...

Boo

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see, now you changed it and it's even weirder, lol.

I will delete the copied parts. If you need help making something the same way I have it, just ASK.

 I WILL NOT DELETE COPIES BECAUSE:

"i will delete", "i wont delete". not to be nitpicky or anything, but that just makes no sense, and as you said beneath, you're effectively putting the page into the public domain on a cc license, which allows copying. i wouldnt want to see things like this popping up on everyones page, it will just start mass edit wars and "waaa, you stole my layout" comments, since you are a very good contributor, if you do it, people will think it's ok.

personally, i'd just remove the threat, besides breaking the cc license you post under, it makes no sense.

not sure how to reply to your comment, but i saw your edit, now it reads much better :) btw, what creature images are you stuck for, if you just need a dump of all the creature images, i can get a hold of it. i also have a dump of all the map tiles and a big database of each map i've been working on for a bot for the irc server. if it can help at all, gimme a shout. ZidaneT 16:00, 27 April 2008 (BST)

I was actually the one asking about creature images. So far I've put in all the properly numbered images but any since around xmas have been using things like 10588a88bc9ef8dab82 for their file names and I don't know of a good way to catalog those. I also have a page showing the map tilesets ready to put on here, but at the moment it's not my priority. Maps on the area pages are always welcome if properly edited with wikicode. Oh CHiNback, he's right, it does read much better now... Perhaps we should start a 'Free Wiki Code Initiative' or something. — Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

a curious question arises.... i suspect with a little work i can have the maps automatically created, parsing my database and outputting correct wiki code. i assume there is no problem with such maps being uploaded? unfortunately i am in the middle of writing the irc bot to interface with the game atm, so if it happens at all, it wont be right away. too many good ideas, not enough time ;). oh, and i'll take a look at the creature names/image names. that filename looks awfully like a hash key, and if it is, it makes sense that they would use the crature name/id. in the end though, i suspect we will have to just do it the hard way, by hand. -- ZidaneT 17:17, 28 April 2008 (BST)

your message

thank you for your message. there are only two things for me to say about it: first i have read that copy notice some weeks ago (at belgraves profile page) and second: i can't see any reason why i should not take any fee for my service...if somebody don't want it, they just don't have to ask me... i only don't want to see my hole page copied or most of its content and read in next line that person offers his/her help with creating wiki pages...it's just that i can't believe those persons really can create wiki pages without copying everything. PumaDiAce

pumadice, by entering your page onto the wiki, you allow it to be copied. i don't think there is anything wrong at all with you offering to make someones page for a fee, a lot of users don't know how to edit the wiki and that's probably a good service. but as for people just copying your page completely... well, that's allowed.ZidaneT 17:17, 28 April 2008 (BST)

i know thats allowed but i don't want others to copy my hole page and tell then it's their own work...

and to CHiNback's message: i don't use my posts to get money and fsp are no money. i understand the words noncommercial and don't use posts to make money as making real money. everything in my posts is related to the game and has no relation to real money. furthermore it's free to everybody to decide wether they want me to help them or not... PumaDiAce

"i know thats allowed but i don't want others to copy my hole page and tell then it's their own work..."... there isn't anything you can do to stop it. once you post on here, it can be edited, copied, mangled, eaten by minors, set on fire, cause the destruction of the earth and all life on it, used to end wars and cure all disease, etc. ZidaneT 14:39, 2 May 2008 (BST)