User talk:Belgrave

-Stares in awe-
                 CHiNback - [ Talk - Message - PM ]

I got bored... I'm really just waiting for Extension:Parserfunctions before I do many more content edits and I didn't want to take much time to do maps today.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Help in building a wiki profile

I think I have found out how this thing works. I would like to do something like what you have done on your Wiki profile. I am not wanting to copy yours exactly but do the same thing so mine does not get any longer where you have to scroll to get to the section you want. I also copied the guild structure code and placed it on my profile but I wanted to add some more to it so it would be easier for the other guild members to know what it would take to upgrade it, the upkeep and to build the structure. I have some knowledge of html coding and have found out that there are some differences in the coding for the wiki. Also how can I get or make a signature that I can put at the end of my postings. DavidAHare

There are instructions how to make your own signature at Category:User Signatures. Also, you use ~~~~ to sign your comments and it will generate a basic signature (with timestamp) if you don't have a special one set up.

I'm glad you have some basic html knowledge since that will make it much easier for you. Wiki markup is essentially the same as html but replaces some of the tags with abbreviated versions. I have links to many basic wiki help pages partway down on my user page and recommend you get to know at least some of the basic formatting.

Concerning your page, I'm guessing you want to have tabs at the top the way I do. I do this by having a subpage called User:Belgrave/Tabs with the tabs and then putting {{User:Belgrave/Tabs}} (format to include it just like a template) at the top of every page I want the tabs on. Every tab then links to my user page or one of my user subpages. Each of those pages has the basic table that contains everything and inside it I include other subpages the same way I'm including the tabs. This makes it easy to setup the pages and keeps the code easily editable. Keep in mind, one of the easiest ways to put together a page is to copy someone else's and then edit it to fit your needs.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Continuation of my previous subject.

Item 1: I have copied the code for your profile and some of it I want to use but I need to know how you prefwer I give you credit.
Item 2: The section on vandelism I would like to use but I do not think I can get some one banned or have their profile deleted so could you give me some Ideas of what to put in that section.
Item 3: There are parts in your profile that do not have your name in the title and I was wondering if I need to copy the code and then paste the code into my profile or is it on the wiki already.
Item 4: The Quest Book I have looked at the code that another player has on their profile and it is smaller but it still lists all the Quest as far as I can tell. I then looked at your code and it lists all of the Quests as far as I can tell and your code is laonger with the Quest list.
Item 5: Is there a way to be notified when someone adds to the profile and or the discussions. I will work on the coding for awhile but this is what I have for now.

DavidAHare 01:13, 21 August 2008 (BST)

1. Honestly, no credit is needed, but it is appreciated. If you want, a small note at the bottom saying something like "Elements of this page were influenced by Belgrave" is fine.

2. You're welcome to change any of the wording in anything from my user pages that you copy. The section on vandalism I have on User:Belgrave/Notices is more against general vandalism of the wiki, not just against editing my personal pages. Keep in mind, others may edit out anything they think is inappropriate or may fix errors and that is not necessarily vandalism.

3. The parts in the profile that don't have the User:Belgrave/ in front of them are probably regular templates that I made for general use on none user pages also. Examples of these would be Template:Inventory or Template:EnhancementBar. Most of those will have instructions how to use them on their specific pages.

4. Template:QuestBook is a template which can be updated on the template side to always show the most recently added quests without breaking any of the coding on the pages that use the template. The way it works is that the only parameters you have to include are the ones for the quests you want to show as being complete or incomplete. Everything else will default to the empty box. As with the other templates, I have instructions on the template page.

5. If someone adds to User:DavidAHare or User talk:DavidAHare, you will be notified by a "you have new messages" message at the top of the wiki. You can add other pages to that list by adding them to your watch list. One of the tabs at the top of ever page will let you add a page to your watch list, and if you want to add any page you edit, there is a check box right above the 'save page' which will allow you to add it as you save it.

I hope that about answers your questions. I look forward to seeing what you can cook up, and if you need any fixing/fine tuning of the code, you know where to ask!
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Putting comments in the coding with Wiki code

I was wondering how you would code comments in the coding to make the coding more organized. I am going to try and use the regular comment coding to see if it will work.

Regular comment tags work. There is no wiki equivalent of that.

<!-- comment goes here -->

— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Have you edited some of my pages

I was just wondering if you were helping me to edit some of my pages. I also trying to figure out where and how to remove your profile pic and replace it with mine. I am still trying to get all of your stuff out but I may miss some. I ahave some additions to the profile so I will need some help with that. I was trying to fingure out how to get rid of the part about the Synop. Thanks for removing it for me.

All the images in there are taken from the game. There are instructions how to link to the in-game images at Category:Images. I did make a few edits to a few of your things, specifically removing the "wiki sysop" from your sig since you are not one, and I had removed "Deletes" and "Blocks" since you cannot have any unless you are a sysop, but you put them back. Something else I would recommend is complete removal of the Wiki Tips section since it almost seems you're using my tips as your own. If you want, I can remove it for you. If you want to add something to your profile, that's fine with me. The pages and subpages are all just a basic table format so all you have to do is copy one and save it on a new page with the new changes and include it on whatever main page the way all the other sections are included.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Editing Pages

Concerning the Delete and block sections, I was trying to use the same code but goto something else not related to Block and delete. Concerning the Wiki Tips I was not trying to use them as my own. I just had not made it to the page to add a reference that these tips came from you. I figured out how to make a second tab line in the profile, but there is a small problem with the background color. Is there a way that only I and you can only edit a couple of my pages. On these pages is information that I have so that the Guild Founders can see what has been given me by the other guild members. The other page concerns Items that I have for Sale and guild locked. I have some more questions but I will have to ask them latter.

There is no way to make it so only select wiki users can edit a page (unless I protect a page which restricts editing to sysops only). The problems you are running into are because the tabs are essentially a template and the main pages need to give it a parameter which designates which tab to change the color for. On my user page I have a link to a help page about templates. I recommend you read that to better understand out how they work.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

New Item Template

I see you've made a new item template... working hard as ever, huh! - Sinho6 02:09, 22 August 2008 (BST)

I decided I didn't want to wait for HCS to get around to installing Extension:Parserfunctions (I still don't know how "next week" translates into Hooftime), so I made an improved layout based on what Template:Item would do if we had the extension. This has several enhancements over the previous layout: stat/enhancement alignment, removal of the "AH Price Range" section, and several other changes. The section supposed to link to Hellforged stats will remain unavailable until we do get the parserfunctions though.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM