Difference between revisions of "User talk:Belgrave"

   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

You do not need to start a new topic every time you post on my talk page.

When the side navigation bar isn't at the right place, it usually means you forgot to close a table or two somewhere.

If you want to give me credit, just put at the bottom:
{{User:Belgrave/Note|This page layout was inspired by [[User:Belgrave|Belgrave]].}}
This gives:

This page layout was inspired by Belgrave.

— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

ok I am just used to put everything into different topics to make it more easier to read. Oh by the way how does it look so far. I know I still have some things to add and replace with my information. I am trying to take care a minor-major problem with the water line without gettiing a heat stroke.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

If you changed somethings in my profile thank you. I am trying to get things done. Hope your day is going alright.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

I added another column on the Player Profile page Buff section and it messed up the Player Profile page a little. Can you take a look and see what I did or did not do to make the Player Profile page look like it does. Thanks
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

You need to remember to make sure you didn't make any mistakes in the formatting. I removed a messed up line or two and fixed your colspans so it works properly now.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

I have looked at the coding you have on Wiki Hints/Tips Page to see how on the right side you have the [hide] and [show] functions and I am not seeing it. If you can just tell me where to go I am sure I can figure it out. I was just wondering how is it looking so far. I do know I still have work to do on it. The members of my guild that have looked at it say it has helped them with some stuff in the game. I do want to say thanks too since parts that I will be leaving in the profile are from you.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

To make a table collapsible it uses the code class="collapsible" and if you want it to load collapsed it uses class="collapsible collapsed". Also, alot of things you're adding such as your pages User:DavidAHare/E and SE Creatures and User:DavidAHare/Gain are giving information that is redundant to what is already on the wiki. If you're going to have those pages, I would suggest linking to the main content pages for those specific topics since they contain much more information.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Concerning the pages User:DavidAHare/E and SE Creatures and User:DavidAHare/Gain I was trying to give some hints to the lower level members of the guild. The format right now may not be the best way at this time but it is working for some of the lower level members in the guild. Once I get some of the other pages completed and they only new some minor changes I will be looking at revamping those pages as well. Right now I am trying to build a welcome page which will be the 1st page in my profile. This welcome page would take the information I have at the top of my 1st page now and put it into a page by itself. Also on the new 1st page I would have Section tabs then it would go to the tabs that are on the now. Right now I am looking at 2 Section tabs General-Profile and Guild. Under the General-Profile I would put the 1st row of tabs I have now. Under the Guild Tab I would put the 2nd row of tabs I have now. I maybe getting to technical in building my profile. 1 problem I do have though is that I do not have a copy of each page/section in front of me to compare which makes it hard to change things sometimes.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

I have been working on my profile and have run into a few problems. I got part of the problems fixed but can not find what is total wrong.

• 1.) My welcome page has my signature section below the red line border.
• 2.) On my medals book page the red border does not appear along where the medals section is.
• 3.) Are the links for the wiki help yours or are they links to section inside the wiki itself.

I am wondering what you think of my profile right now. I do know that there are a few problems in it. I also know I still have a few more things of yours to replace like the items in the backpack section. I would like some feedback on my profile wether it is good or bad. Again thanks for helping me with some of the minor problems I have had.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

1. Put it inside the same cell as everything else and give it it's own table just like everything else inside that cell. Otherwise you're going to have to figure out how to make another cell and put it inside a table inside that cell.
2. I only took a quick glance, but it seems you either left something out or changed something.
3. The wiki help links are to external sources. I could have added alot more, but decided to only include the most relevant ones. The things on my wiki tips page are mine though.

Personally, I think you should be starting out small on your user pages. Contribute to the wiki, get to know the code and how it works, and eventually you'll be able to make a snazzy user page without being told how to do it or having someone fix your code. Also, there are alot of tabs up there... you're going to have to learn how to pass parameters to a template if you want the proper ones to be highlighted at the proper time. You could also consider changing some of the images to make it look different from mine.

I think the only thing that really bothers me is that you're using so many of my things that your user page almost seems like an extension of mine. I realize you have been putting in there that you copied things from mine, but it's so frequent that it's "Belgrave says this...", "Belgrave has this tip...", "Belgrave does this..." I know you're copying it straight from mine and it is allowed, but it just doesn't feel right to me. You might try personallizing everything to make it look a little different.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

I understand what you are saying. I have been trying to get rid of 90 to 95 percent of your stuff. I am trying to have a link to your Wiki tips which I stuck on its own tab. I have been trying to find different images for the tops of the tabs but I have not found the ones I want except the gold image. I just have not found the page that holds all the images yet. The part about fixing the code. If you just show me how the could should be I learn better than if someone just goes in and fixes it themselves. I also have a problem with my eyes focusing on the computer screen and the black letters get blurry sometimes and that is why I like someone else to look at what I have and let me know what I did wrong. I am not trying to make excusses here, but I like to let people know what is going on especially since the meds I take affect my eyes to some degree. Concerning the links I wanted to make sure the ones that went to stuff you made for example Templates for Items and stuff were properly recongnized and if the other links that went to places in the Wiki were yours then they would get the same recognition. I know I have made this kind of big but that is the way I do somethings and it usually bites me in the but sometimes like now. I have left some of the tabs named like they are so I know what the code is and just have to change a few things.

• The Tab row that has Welcome first I am trying to put anything that I want to copy from other profiles and or link to those profiles.
• The Tab row which starts with General is to be my information. Which I have left the code in the Wiki Tab linked to your profile stuff even though I put a special Tab for that in the above Tab Row. Now here comes the hard part. The information you have in the Notices section I feel as you do even though I did not Found the Guild I am in but was made a Guild Founder. I am trying to figure a way to say the same thing but in a different way. I also know that the 2 sections on the right were copied or linked to the information on the Wiki itself.
• The final Tab row which starts with Guild Structures is to be about the guild I am in. I also understand about the 2 pages you already discussed. I am just trying to get the more inportant stuff done before working on them.

I do not want you to feel that you have to be the one that needs to do the correcting of the code or codes in the page itself. I can do the correcting of the code if you just tell me what is wrong and what/how to fix it. I have also foound it is easier to put stuff on its own page and then put the page link in the code to make it more easier for me to figure out mistakes, which I have corrected alot of them myself. I may have to stop working on my profile for awhile and then come back to it with a set of fresh eyes as I have learn to do. I do not want to become annoying here. I just wanted some one with fresh eyes to see where I messed up. If I become to annoying please let me know. I have also thought about saving it on a disc and then seeing if it would load up in a web browser to see what it would look like but the information that was linked to in the game and what was linked to in the Wiki would not show properly. I see that I have typied alot of information and I am starting to ramble on so I had better stop typing and save this so it can be on its way. Thanks for all the help you have given me.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

Take a deep breath, relax, and read #2 and #3 of Belgrave's Basic Words of Wiki Wisdom. I know there have been some things on here which took me forever to figure out how to do, especially Template:ItemBox. I think I spent 2 months before I figured out a way to make that look the way it looks now.

You are still a guild founder whether you started the guild or if you were promoted to that position. The notice on my page was actually inspired by what someone else had in their player bio. I basically took that and made my own changes to it. The other things on the side were copied from somewhere else on the wiki, but I had initially written that too.

Item images can all be found on the item image pages.

I did make a number of changes on some of your pages while trying to figure out what was wrong with your main page, but those were inconsequential and didn't do anything. On the pages where the fixes were made, I did leave short comments to give some idea of what I did. You can also go into the page history to see the differences in the code side by side.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

I do thank you for what you did and where to find the item images. Right now I am taking a break from working on my profile. That way when I come back to it I will have a fresh set of eyes to look at it. Another reason is I needed to play the game more than I have been since I started the Wiki Profile. Another reason is I am on more than the other Guild Founders and need to be there for the lower level members.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

The images I was talking about are the ones that are on the tabs themselves. I was able to change 1 because I found an image of gold. I found an image for the quest and medal pages. I am about to forget the 1 question I wanted to ask. Is there a way or template made that will allow the stats to show up when you pass over it like in your game profile? I have found 2 ways to program the backpack stuff and I just thought it would be nice to be able to see if the item was crafted to and if it was hellforged. If there isn't that is fine also.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

Those are the same images I was talking about. I got all of them from the Item Images pages. There is currently no way to hover over an item and get a popup with stats like in the game. However, now that I'm thinking about it, I might be able to cook up something really strange yet similar...
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

You do not need to do something like that unless you want to. I was just asking to see if there was before I worked on my backpack section. What is the purpose of adding {{SUBST:User:DavidAHare/sigX}} in the nickname area of the profile preferences?
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM

That is is you can sign your talk posts by just putting ~~~ (3 tildas) at the end of it. Also, I did cook up a template that can show the stats of items, but there are problems with the z-index that I cannot work out (I think it is disabled by the wiki software) so it won't look good for items side by side and at this point, an inventory template using this out of the question. You can see more about it at Template:StatBox.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM