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<big>'''Question'''</big> <br><br> Could you look at Template <nowiki>{{DAH Borrowed}}</nowiki> and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.<br>
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I may have found a way to make my tab area smaller, but I need to know if theses div classes will work in this Wiki.  Here they are.  <span style="color:#090"><tt>div class="NavFrame",</tt></span> <span style="color:#090"><tt>div class="NavHead",</tt></span> and <span style="color:#090"><tt>div class="NavContent"</tt></span>  I have found on another Wiki they did it by using these 3 div classes and other codes to go along with them.  I have not used scripts in the html pages I have built unless it was copied from another code so I am not to versed in that type of programing.  That is why I ask alot of questions dealing with that type of coding.  I also have not gotten into the more advanced programing styles.  All I have done is just the basic type of Web page programing and the WIKI is different then that so I am learning how to program in that way since some of what I do know of HTML programing does not work or works in a different way.  If the above div classes will not work then I think I may have a way to do something like what has been done on the other Wiki.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 17:54, 16 September 2008 (BST)
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1 Make my information the primary information in the template.<br>
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:<span style="color:#060">Let me know the page/other wiki and I'll take a look at it to see if it would work here. In the meantime, without knowing the code behind it, I am very likely to say no, it won't work.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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2 Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.<br>
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3 Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member.  For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare  Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
  
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:<span style="color:#060">It can be done with [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions Extention:ParserFunctions]. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are:</span>
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{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
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:<span style="color:#060">As for the name/id part, that would use a switch:</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for [[Template:Creature|creatures]] and [[Template:Item|items]].</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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Thank You.  I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.<br><br>
  
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I tried coping the code from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_User_Page_Help/Do-It-Yourself/Formatting_Text#Text_formatting under the heading '''Show/Hide sections''' and placing it between the tags <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki></nowiki> but it all ran together so I just deleted it here in your talk page.  But I do have a copy of the coding at [[User:DavidAHare/Test Page Section A]].<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
 
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:<span style="color:#060">I looked at the instructions for that at[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NavFrame Wikipedia:NavFrame] and can say it's not going to be available, at least until I'm looking for another project to work on. It requires editing the css and javascript that's used on the entire wiki and that's not something I'd do without at least testing it awhile first in a controlled environment. In the meantime, we do have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Collapsible_tables collapsible tables] which is essentially the same thing.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
 
  
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Thank you for the information.  You gave me another way to do something like that.  The other way I thought of was to make seperate pages for the 5 different Sections to my profile with the Collapsible funtion and put each tab page on there. By doing this I can program different colors and I am more versed with this way.  I will experiment with Collapsible_tables to see what kinds of differrent formats/ways of displaying information with them.  I also found <nowiki> <div style="width:50%; height: 150px; overflow:auto; border: thin solid blue; background: white"> </div> </nowiki> which puts a scroll bar on the page which I know works  on this Wiki since I have already tested it.  I am going to use it on my pages to see if I can shorten the displaying length on some of my pages. I am also trying to get an upgrade computer to do what you did with the server and the Wiki where you were able to test your pages on your computer before saving them to this wiki.  The proble I think is the references to information in this Wiki i.e. the Items and creatures, but I will deal with that latter.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 20:17, 16 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">I did notice the scrollbar you tested. That might come in handy for some pages.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be.  If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there.  I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. [http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Desolate_Lands Desolate Lands Travel Map]<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
  
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I tried different ways that I knew how to put the scroll bars side by side but could not get it to do it.  I finally gave up and did not save any of the code.  I was able to make the scroll bars smaller in width by using the width = 50%.  I will try later to put them side by side.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 23:27, 16 September 2008 (BST)
 
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:<span style="color:#060">If you take a look at your page, you will see that I fixed it for you. I even left a comment in your code to let you know what you had forgotten.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
 
  
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You did not have to fix it. I was coming back to it after I played a little.  I was using what you have in your Wiki Tips which I copied about leaving it for awhile and then coming back to it.  I was also wondering on the templates that you built for the Items and Item sets that the Item Set Stats were not included like the old syle template that I originally used and you  switched to the new style.  It does not bother me which style I use.  They both have the same information except for when the item is in a set there is no set statson the page anymore.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 00:06, 17 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">I removed the set stats from the item pages since they were redundant with the information on the item set pages. Also, it greatly reduces the code in [[Template:Item]]. As for your page, I was only responding to what you wrote on there about not being able to figure it out. I don't mind making the occasional small code fix as long as I don't have to make the whole page. I'm pretty good at finding those small errors!</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.
  
  
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I understand now about the Item Set Stitem set stats.  I Hope you take what I wrote above the wrong way.  I was just following some of the tips you wrote and you repeated them to me awile back.  I do appreciate you fixing the problem.  I do not know if you noticed but I like to try things out and see if I can do them before I ask for help and sometimes I don't ask for help.  That is why some times I get into trouble because I do not ask for help.  I also like to leave notes about stuff so when I do come back I know what needs to be worked on.  Again I thank you.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 23:23, 17 September 2008 (BST)
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Template:StatBox --- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
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:<span style="color:#060"> Don't worry about it. Anyway, if you didn't know it yet, we did get Extension:ParserFunctions this week so now we can do detailed templates. For a fun time and if you want to see some of the things this allows, take a look at the code in [[Template:Item]]...</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Template:BPSlots6
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Template:BPSlots7 -- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
  
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So we are to use this template instead of the other one I have been using.  Also does this template take in to affect if an item has been hellforged.  Also I wanted to know if there are some large images around like the one that is at the top of the player profile pages in the game.  I am looking at possible usingan image as a backgrouond if the wiki will allow that.  There was something else I wanted to ask but I do not remember it so I will just send this on its way.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 01:33, 18 September 2008 (BST)
 
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:<span style="color:#060">[[Template:Item]] does not show hellforged stats, but can show crafted stats and has a link to another page that can show the hellforged stats if someone puts on [[Template:HFCalc]] or [[Template:HFCalcCrafted]] on it with all the item's stats. Yes, I did manage to make a working hellforge calculator for the wiki!</span>
 
  
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:<span style="color:#060">I do not know what image you are talking about on the top of in-game profile pages. The only image I know about is the big banner at the top of all the game pages. Also, there is no way to use background images on the wiki.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I am wondering why the difference between the 2.  The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.<br>
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{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
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:<span style="color:#060">Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, [[Template:StatBox]] was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the <tt>name</tt> parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the <tt>link-1</tt> parameter, or to [[Backpack]] if that parameter is not given.</span>
  
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:<span style="color:#060">I am assuming you want to give [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc the same ability to display stats as [[Template:StatBox]], but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more [[Template:StatBox]]'s side by side and see what happens.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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I have the big banner image that is on the game pages at the top of my profile pages. I will have to take a look at [[Template:HFCalc]] and [[Template:HFCalcCrafted]] to see how to use them.  I am not sure what Extension:ParserFunctions does so I am going to go do an internet search and see what I come up with.  If it seems that my messages do not make since I did not get any sleep last night.  I sometimes get into these no sleep fits and thenm it hits me where I can't keep my eyes open so I am going now.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 02:08, 18 September 2008 (BST)
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::Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup.  I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different.  Again thank you.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
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<big>'''Question'''</big>  Is it possible to take the tab type menu and combine it with the collapisible class to show like a menu area where you could choose different areas.  i.e User:Belgrave  and then have inside when you press show Wiki Hints and Tips And Links.  I have not tried to work on this but I think in away I was trying to do it with just the collapisible function on my test page where you can see it is not working out very good.  Any input is appreciated and I am not wanting you to write the whole thing I am just asking if it can be done.  I tried using what you told me I left out in the scroll bars side  by side code.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 19:04, 21 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">If you mean is it possible to make a collapsible tab which when you click <nowiki>[show]</nowiki> it gives a dropdown of other options, I think that should be possible. All you'd have to do was make each tab a separate collapsible table with one column. If you want the dropdown to be offcentered, then that gets a little more detailed but would require something similar to what I have in [[Template:StatBox]].</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">I'm actually rewriting Template:StatBox now so it can show everything you get in in-game item mouseovers. It might be a few days before it's finished though, since I'm concentrating more on updating all the item pages first. As far as I'm concerned, the real content has higher priority over all the frills and thrills and user pages.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I understand fully.  Am I to understand that you are updating the itewm pages to the new formats.  If so I may help you in that task if you would like the help.  I also have a '''Question''' that concerns the game play.  I am in the The Great Tree Canopy are and have been to the other areas around The Great Tree Canopy.  I am wondering where do I go next for level 120 and up.  I am now at Lvel 121 and have no place to go.  I know that this might not be the place to ask this question but I thought I would ask it anyway and see what the answer is.  Thanks for the info you have given me already. Please let me know if you do need the help in moving the information to the new formated pages.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 21:09, 21 September 2008 (BST)
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== Modify the "New Page"-page ==
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It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)
  
 
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:<span style="color:#aaa">This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
 
:<span style="color:#aaa">This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
 
::<span style="color:#060">It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside [[Template:Item]], but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
 
::<span style="color:#060">It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside [[Template:Item]], but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Template:StatBox ==
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<font color="blue">As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)<br>
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But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.<br>
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But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:<br>
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Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.<br>
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Perhaps there is a way i haven't thought of.<br>
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(If you need an example of the described problem, take a look at [[The_white_dragon#Guild_Tagged_Super_Elite_Sets]] and try to use your Template StatBox instead of The White Dragon ItemBox2.)</font>
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{{PDASig}}
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:<span style="color:#060">I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any <tt>z-index</tt> into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means [[Template:StatBox]] cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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::<font color="blue">yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...<br>
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::but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.</font>{{PDASig}}
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:::<span style="color:#060">That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to [[Template:StatBoxStat]] and then pass it to there from another parameter in [[Template:StatBox]]. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike [[Template:EnhancementBar]]).</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Voodoo Zombie Rogue ==
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Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.
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== Moving Pages ==
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I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one
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http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/The_Hunted_Cow_Tippers/Gear_201-300
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[[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -[[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)
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== Champions ==
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I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?
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:<span style="color:#060">You need to add <tt>|rarity=Champion</tt> for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Thanks.
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== Typos ==
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Seems to be a popular typo.
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I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.
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Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves??  - zillerz
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:<span style="color:#aaa">It's Angal.</span>
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:<span style="color:#aaa">And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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::<span style="color:#060">If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.</span><pre>#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]</pre>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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The name for this relic has been Leora Becon
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It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz
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:<span style="color:#060">Check the [http://www.fallensword.com/index.php?cmd=guild&subcmd=reliclist in-game relic list], it shows it as Leora Becon.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z
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:<span style="color:#060">If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Mysterious Portal Template ==
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I was dreading adding in all the gold costs by hand, so very nice. 
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However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak.  I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template gives.  Not a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals
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:<span style="color:#060">I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it.  Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth.  Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?
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== hi ==
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i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki
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== missing info/missing crafted ==
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I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max.  Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --[[User:Arieh|Arieh]] 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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::There is such category now: [[:Category:Needs Stats]] which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put <nowiki>{{Needs Craft Stats}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Needs Stats}}</nowiki> on top of the page. --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)
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there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it.
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http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm
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:<span style="color:#060">I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals</span><br>

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Question

Could you look at Template {{DAH Borrowed}} and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.
1 Make my information the primary information in the template.
2 Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.
3 Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member. For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

It can be done with Extention:ParserFunctions. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are: 
{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
{{#ifeq: <text 1> | <text 2> | <code if equal> | <code if not equal> }}
As for the name/id part, that would use a switch: 
{{#switch: <comparison value>
| <value1> = <result1>
| <value2> = <result2>
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You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for creatures and items.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Thank You. I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.


Question

I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be. If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there. I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. Desolate Lands Travel Map
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


Question

I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.


Template:StatBox --- [{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>

Template:BPSlots6 Template:BPSlots7 -- [{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>


I am wondering why the difference between the 2. The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, Template:StatBox was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the name parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. Template:BPSlots6/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the link-1 parameter, or to Backpack if that parameter is not given.
I am assuming you want to give Template:BPSlots6/7/etc the same ability to display stats as Template:StatBox, but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more Template:StatBox's side by side and see what happens.
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Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup. I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different. Again thank you.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Modify the "New Page"-page

It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --Isakus 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)

Min MAX Crafted statistics

Hello, I don't think this is a good idea for 2 reasons. First, the pages code is becoming too complex and second, the quality label of a craft is related to the total gain compared to the uncrafted item. So basicaly, for most items with multiple crafted statistics, the minimum value for any stat is the bas euncrafted value for up to average or good items. I think it is better to give a "typical" value (and warn than actual values may vary...). Well, just my own .02€.

-Phoxtrot 22:10, 16 September 2008 (BST)

This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.
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It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside Template:Item, but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.
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Template:StatBox

As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)
But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.
But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:
Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.
Perhaps there is a way i haven't thought of.
(If you need an example of the described problem, take a look at The_white_dragon#Guild_Tagged_Super_Elite_Sets and try to use your Template StatBox instead of The White Dragon ItemBox2.)

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I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any z-index into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means Template:StatBox cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.
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yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...
but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.PDASig.PNG
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That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to Template:StatBoxStat and then pass it to there from another parameter in Template:StatBox. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike Template:EnhancementBar).
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Voodoo Zombie Rogue

Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.

Moving Pages

I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one

http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/The_Hunted_Cow_Tippers/Gear_201-300

Sinho6 02:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)

That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.
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Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -Sinho6 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Champions

I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?

You need to add |rarity=Champion for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.
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Thanks.

Typos

Seems to be a popular typo.

I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.

Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves?? - zillerz

It's Angal.
And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.
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If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.
#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]
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The name for this relic has been Leora Becon

It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz

Check the in-game relic list, it shows it as Leora Becon.
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Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z

If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!
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Mysterious Portal Template

I was dreading adding in all the gold costs by hand, so very nice.

However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak. I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template gives. Not a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals

I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.
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Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it. Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?

Thanks for looking into it. - Tals

hi

i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki

missing info/missing crafted

I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max. Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --Arieh 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

There is such category now: Category:Needs Stats which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put {{Needs Craft Stats}} or {{Needs Stats}} on top of the page. --Isakus 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Quest Items

there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it. http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm

I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals
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