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I deal with mostly wiki and occasional forum issues.

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CHiNback - [ Talk - Message - PM ]

I got bored... I'm really just waiting for Extension:Parserfunctions before I do many more content edits and I didn't want to take much time to do maps today.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Help with User Page

Question

Could you look at Template {{DAH Borrowed}} and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.
1 Make my information the primary information in the template.
2 Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.
3 Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member. For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.
DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

It can be done with Extention:ParserFunctions. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are:

{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
{{#ifeq: <text 1> | <text 2> | <code if equal> | <code if not equal> }}

As for the name/id part, that would use a switch:

{{#switch: <comparison value>
| <value1> = <result1>
| <value2> = <result2>
| ...
| #default = <default result>
}}

You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for creatures and items.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Thank You. I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.

Question

I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be. If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there. I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. Desolate Lands Travel Map
DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Question

I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.

Template:StatBox --- [{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>

Template:BPSlots6 Template:BPSlots7 -- [{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>

I am wondering why the difference between the 2. The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.
DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, Template:StatBox was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the name parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. Template:BPSlots6/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the link-1 parameter, or to Backpack if that parameter is not given.

I am assuming you want to give Template:BPSlots6/7/etc the same ability to display stats as Template:StatBox, but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more Template:StatBox's side by side and see what happens.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup. I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different. Again thank you.
DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Modify the "New Page"-page

It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --Isakus 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)

Min MAX Crafted statistics

Hello, I don't think this is a good idea for 2 reasons. First, the pages code is becoming too complex and second, the quality label of a craft is related to the total gain compared to the uncrafted item. So basicaly, for most items with multiple crafted statistics, the minimum value for any stat is the bas euncrafted value for up to average or good items. I think it is better to give a "typical" value (and warn than actual values may vary...). Well, just my own .02€.

-Phoxtrot 22:10, 16 September 2008 (BST)

This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.
CHiNback - [ Talk - Message - PM ]

It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside Template:Item, but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Template:StatBox

As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)
But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.
But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:
Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.
Perhaps there is a way i haven't thought of.
(If you need an example of the described problem, take a look at The_white_dragon#Guild_Tagged_Super_Elite_Sets and try to use your Template StatBox instead of The White Dragon ItemBox2.)

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I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any z-index into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means Template:StatBox cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...

but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.

[Talk ♦ Message ♦ Auctions]

That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to Template:StatBoxStat and then pass it to there from another parameter in Template:StatBox. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike Template:EnhancementBar).
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Voodoo Zombie Rogue

Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.

Moving Pages

I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one

http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/The_Hunted_Cow_Tippers/Gear_201-300

Sinho6 02:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)

That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -Sinho6 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Champions

I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?

You need to add |rarity=Champion for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Thanks.

Typos

Seems to be a popular typo.

I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.

Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves?? - zillerz

It's Angal.

And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.
CHiNback - [ Talk - Message - PM ]

If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.

#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]

— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

The name for this relic has been Leora Becon

It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz

Check the in-game relic list, it shows it as Leora Becon.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z

If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Mysterious Portal Template

I was dreading adding in all the gold costs by hand, so very nice.

However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak. I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template gives. Not a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals

I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop Talk Message PM

Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it. Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?

Thanks for looking into it. - Tals

hi

i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki

missing info/missing crafted

I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max. Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --Arieh 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

There is such category now: Category:Needs Stats which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put {{Needs Craft Stats}} or {{Needs Stats}} on top of the page. --Isakus 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Quest Items

there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it. http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm

I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals

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 == Help with User Page ==
+<div style="height: 300px; overflow:auto;">
-'''I have a question,''' If I put in the code  for the CSS Style Sheet with the rest of the code can you look at it and give me some feedback on how I might be able to get this to work in WIKI format.  The CSS Style Sheet is embeded in the menu program itself.  I just need to know if I am spinning my wheels trying to reformat it to work in a WIKI Format.  I will put the code back in the page that I created for it latter for you to look at when you have a chance.  I have looked at my profile in Microsofts Internet broweser and it is showing like it is supposed to.  I also looked at it in Firefox and some of the corners are round and some are not, but over all it is showing like it is supposed to.  I have also left comments on the talk page for the test section.  <br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
+<big>'''Question'''</big>  <br><br>  Could you look at Template <nowiki>{{DAH Borrowed}}</nowiki> and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.<br>
+Make my information the primary information in the template.<br>
+Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.<br>
+Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member.  For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare  Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
+:<span style="color:#060">It can be done with [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions Extention:ParserFunctions]. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are:</span>
+<pre>
+{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
+{{#ifeq: <text 1> | <text 2> | <code if equal> | <code if not equal> }}
+</pre>
+:<span style="color:#060">As for the name/id part, that would use a switch:</span>
+<pre>
+{{#switch: <comparison value>
+| <value1> = <result1>
+| <value2> = <result2>
+| ...
+| #default = <default result>
+}}
+</pre>
+:<span style="color:#060">You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for [[Template:Creature|creatures]] and [[Template:Item|items]].</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-'''Question about Templates'''  Where can I find information about building a template.  I have an idea for a template but am not quite sure how to format the template to do what I want it to do.  I have looked at the Quest Book template and it helped a little but it still did not give me what I want/need.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
+Thank You.  I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.<br><br>
-:<span style="color:#060">Links to help pages are on my main [[User:Belgrave|user page]]. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+<big>'''Question'''</big>  <br><br>
+I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be.  If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there.  I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. [http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Desolate_Lands Desolate Lands Travel Map]<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
-'''<big>Question about How to report someone</big>'''  16:36 10/Sep/2008	To Belgrave: I have a question that was brought up to me as one of the guild founders in our guild. This person asked how he was supposed to report someone who swore at him or at him in his log. If you need to contact this person here is the name and the message he sent me "16:31 10/Sep/2008 despencer says: hi a ? 4 how do i report someone 4 swearing to me or at me in my log [ Reply | Buff ]"
-:[http://support.huntedcow.com/ http://support.huntedcow.com/]<br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-I now have gotten a second message asking me how to report someone, but this time it came from another member of my guild.  Here is a copy of that message also "16:45 10/Sep/2008	my2angels says: how do u make a wiki profile   [ Reply | Buff ]"  I do not know if this is about the same person or not.  I did ask but as of this message I have received a response back yet.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 17:53, 10 September 2008 (BST)
+<big>'''Question'''</big>  <br><br>
+I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.
-:[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Editing_pages http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Editing_pages]<br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-I forwarded the information how to report someone to the 2 different members of the Guild.  But I did have one question about this answer  :[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Editing_pages http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Editing_pages] though.  I just caught what I did.  I copied the wrong message, but it was from the same person who asked me about how to make a wiki profile which I will forward that information also.  Between hunting and trying to get to lvl 116 and trying to find out the answer for the 2 members I am not seeing straight.  Well I had better go finish my hunting and take a rest until my stamina recharges.  Thanks again.<br> {{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 19:00, 10 September 2008 (BST)
+Template:StatBox --- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
-Boy you were fast there. I went to the aution house to see if I could get the rest of the information for the crafted part of the Cracked Lava Boots.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 16:09, 11 September 2008 (BST)
+Template:BPSlots6
+Template:BPSlots7 -- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
+I am wondering why the difference between the 2.  The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.<br>
+{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
+:<span style="color:#060">Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, [[Template:StatBox]] was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the <tt>name</tt> parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the <tt>link-1</tt> parameter, or to [[Backpack]] if that parameter is not given.</span>
-'''<big>Question Here</big>'''   If I have missed this on the termplate page sorry.  Is there a template or a way to just input a person's profile name and be sent to his or hers profile?<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 20:15, 11 September 2008 (BST)
+:<span style="color:#060">I am assuming you want to give [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc the same ability to display stats as [[Template:StatBox]], but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more [[Template:StatBox]]'s side by side and see what happens.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-==&nbsp;==
+::Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup.  I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different.  Again thank you.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
-<span style="color:#888">Hi.  About time I asked for help.</span><br>
+</div>
-<span style="color:#888">If you haven't noticed already, I've begun the process of splitting up my profile page into different sections.  If you'd notice the edit links, you might come to realize that the one beside "Backpack" is not bolded while all the other ones are.  Perhaps you could look into that when you have the time, please?  Thanks.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
-:<span style="color:#060">It's fixed now and all I changed was a <tt><nowiki>|</nowiki></tt> to a <tt>!</tt> ...gotta remember the difference between table headers and table cells.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+== Modify the "New Page"-page ==
+It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)
-<span style="color:#888">Is there a way to make each stat optionally visible?  Say, if an item does not have the HP stat, can you make it not show up on the StatBox template?</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
+== Min MAX Crafted statistics ==
-:<span style="color:#060">Right now there is no way to do that. If we ever get Extension:Parserfunctions, then I'll add that in.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-== Question??? ==
+Hello, I don't think this is a good idea for 2 reasons. First, the pages code is becoming too complex and second, the quality label of a craft is related to the total gain compared to the uncrafted item. So basicaly, for most items with multiple crafted statistics, the minimum value for any stat is the bas euncrafted value for up to average or good items. I think it is better to give a "typical" value (and warn than actual values may vary...). Well, just my own .02€.
-How did you become a wiki sysop?
+-[[User:Phoxtrot|Phoxtrot]] 22:10, 16 September 2008 (BST)
-:<span style="color:#060">HCS asked if I would take the position and I agreed.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+:<span style="color:#aaa">This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
+::<span style="color:#060">It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside [[Template:Item]], but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-== Sortable List of Item Sets ==
+== Template:StatBox ==
-Hello Belgrave. I found it would be nice if it was to sort as well the items sets by their different values. So I copied the content of the Item Set List to a new page [[Sortable List of Item Sets]] and used the same class as you used for  Boots, helmets, etc.
+<font color="blue">As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)<br>
+But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.<br>
+But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:<br>
+Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.<br>
+Perhaps there is a way i haven't thought of.<br>
+(If you need an example of the described problem, take a look at [[The_white_dragon#Guild_Tagged_Super_Elite_Sets]] and try to use your Template StatBox instead of The White Dragon ItemBox2.)</font>
+{{PDASig}}
+<br>
+:<span style="color:#060">I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any <tt>z-index</tt> into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means [[Template:StatBox]] cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+<br>
+::<font color="blue">yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...<br>
+::but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.</font>{{PDASig}}
+:::<span style="color:#060">That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to [[Template:StatBoxStat]] and then pass it to there from another parameter in [[Template:StatBox]]. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike [[Template:EnhancementBar]]).</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+<br>
-I am not sure how to make a new table class. so may be you can look if changes need to be made?
+== Voodoo Zombie Rogue ==
-I created a new bylevel template,  byLevel50
+Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.
-[[User:Landenor|Landenor]] 23:20, 31 August 2008 (BST)
+== Moving Pages ==
-:<span style="color:#060">I took a look at the new page you made. I like it and when I get a chance, I may make a few changes and may end up moving that to the regular item set list. I'd have done it already but I'm a bit busy with non-wiki things right now!</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-== On Splitting Up Pages ==
+I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one
-{| class="collapsible collapsed" width="100%" style="border:1px solid #acacac;"
-!
-|-
-| To split up pages into stuff like User:Belgrave/Components, does it have to be a template? - [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 00:41, 2 September 2008 (BST)
-:<span style="color:#060">It isn't an actual template since it isn't <tt>Template:Pagename</tt>, but it works the same way as a template since you use <tt><nowiki>{{User:Belgrave/Pagename}}</nowiki></tt> on the page you want to put it into. I find it to be useful since I can then add lots of content and not have to sort through too much code when I want to edit it... For example, [[User:Belgrave/Profile]] would be a nightmare if I didn't have it split up so each section was a different page.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-So, is there a specific way to make those pages or do you just treat them as regular pages and simply make them? [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 01:18, 2 September 2008 (BST)
+http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/The_Hunted_Cow_Tippers/Gear_201-300
-:<span style="color:#060">They're made the same as any other page.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-|}
+[[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)
-How do you hide specific parts of a page? [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 20:08, 7 September 2008 (BST)
+:<span style="color:#060">That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-:<span style="color:#060">You make a table with the following code and put everything you want to hide inside it.
-<pre>{| class="collapsible collapsed"
-! table header (this part needs to exist for it to work)
-|-
-| table content
-|}</pre>
-:{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-== Adding Separate Pages to a Wiki Page ==
+Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -[[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)
-Okay, I added a new page called [[The Hunted Cow Tippers/Gear 1-100]], how do I incorporate it into the main page? ([[The Hunted Cow Tippers]]) [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 20:46, 7 September 2008 (BST)
+== Champions ==
-:<span style="color:#060">Put <tt><nowiki>{{The Hunted Cow Tippers/Gear 1-100}}</nowiki></tt> where you want it on [[The Hunted Cow Tippers]] page.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
-Okay, I tried that, but all it does is write "Template:The Hunted Cow Tippers/Gear 1-100" with a link to a page that doesn't exist. Could you help me out? It's under the Gear section of [[The Hunted Cow Tippers|this page]]. [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 20:59, 7 September 2008 (BST)
+I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?
-:<span style="color:#060">My bad... apparently you need a colon (:) at the front since it's in the Main namespace so it would be <tt><nowiki>{{:The Hunted Cow Tippers/Gear 1-100}}</nowiki></tt>.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+:<span style="color:#060">You need to add <tt>|rarity=Champion</tt> for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+Thanks.
-== Linking ==
+== Typos ==
-<span style="color:#600">Is it possible to have any link that goes to my profile to end up [[User:CHiNback/Notices|here]]?</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
-:<span style="color:#060">Only if your profile redirects to that... Alternatively, you can go through the entire wiki and edit every page that links to your profile so it links to that instead.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+Seems to be a popular typo.
+I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.
+Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves??  - zillerz
+:<span style="color:#aaa">It's Angal.</span>
+:<span style="color:#aaa">And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
+::<span style="color:#060">If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.</span><pre>#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]</pre>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+The name for this relic has been Leora Becon
+It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz
+:<span style="color:#060">Check the [http://www.fallensword.com/index.php?cmd=guild&subcmd=reliclist in-game relic list], it shows it as Leora Becon.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z
+:<span style="color:#060">If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+== Mysterious Portal Template ==
+I was dreading adding in all the gold costs by hand, so very nice.
+However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak.  I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template gives.  Not a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals
+:<span style="color:#060">I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
+Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it.  Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth.  Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?
+Thanks for looking into it.  - Tals
+== hi ==
+i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki
+== missing info/missing crafted ==
+I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max.  Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --[[User:Arieh|Arieh]] 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
+::There is such category now: [[:Category:Needs Stats]] which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put <nowiki>{{Needs Craft Stats}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Needs Stats}}</nowiki> on top of the page. --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)
+== Quest Items ==
+there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it.
+http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm
+:<span style="color:#060">I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals</span><br>

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