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<div style="border:8px dotted #f00;width:100%;text-align:center">'''Aceymar does not exist.  Please report DarkJackal (level 14) to HCS.'''<br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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<center><div style="border:8px dotted #f00;width:90%;text-align:center;padding:25px;">'''Have problems or need to report someone in the game? If so, [http://support.huntedcow.com/ submit a ticket].'''
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<span style="color:#060">If you suspect a multi, submit a ticket and let me know. I'll block them on the wiki long enough for HCS to figure it out.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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:<span style="color:#060">I got bored... I'm really just waiting for Extension:Parserfunctions before I do many more content edits and I didn't want to take much time to do maps today.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
 
:<span style="color:#060">I got bored... I'm really just waiting for Extension:Parserfunctions before I do many more content edits and I didn't want to take much time to do maps today.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
 
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| Can You tell me why the Fallen Sword Wiki Navagation Bar on the side of my profile is at the bottom of my page?  Also can you give me an itedea of how to fix it to get it to where it is supposed to be.  I have add some more stuff and do welcome your input on how my profile is going.  I also know I have a few more items of yours to replace with mine.  On some of the stuff that is yours I am going to add a line saying so since I like the information and also since I do not have my own at this time.  If it is alright with you the guild founder section is another section I will be keeping and I will be adding to it.  I will be adding a line to it as well giving you recognition for it.  I do appreciate all the help and suggestions you have given me so far in this endevor.
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<big>'''Question'''</big>  <br><br>  Could you look at Template <nowiki>{{DAH Borrowed}}</nowiki> and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.<br>
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1 Make my information the primary information in the template.<br>
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2 Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.<br>
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3 Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member.  For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare  Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
  
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:<span style="color:#060">It can be done with [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions Extention:ParserFunctions]. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are:</span>
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{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
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{{#ifeq: <text 1> | <text 2> | <code if equal> | <code if not equal> }}
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:<span style="color:#060">As for the name/id part, that would use a switch:</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for [[Template:Creature|creatures]] and [[Template:Item|items]].</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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Thank You.  I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.<br><br>
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<span style="color:#060">You do not need to start a new topic every time you post on my talk page.</span>
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<span style="color:#060">When the side navigation bar isn't at the right place, it usually means you forgot to close a table or two somewhere.</span>
 
  
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<span style="color:#060">If you want to give me credit, just put at the bottom:<br><tt><nowiki>{{User:Belgrave/Note|This page layout was inspired by [[User:Belgrave|Belgrave]].}}</nowiki></tt><br>This gives:
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{{User:Belgrave/Note|This page layout was inspired by [[User:Belgrave|Belgrave]].}}</span>
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I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be.  If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there.  I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. [http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Desolate_Lands Desolate Lands Travel Map]<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
  
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<big>'''Question'''</big>  <br><br>
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I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.
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Template:StatBox --- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
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Template:BPSlots7 -- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
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I am wondering why the difference between the 2.  The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.<br>
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{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
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:<span style="color:#060">Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, [[Template:StatBox]] was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the <tt>name</tt> parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the <tt>link-1</tt> parameter, or to [[Backpack]] if that parameter is not given.</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">I am assuming you want to give [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc the same ability to display stats as [[Template:StatBox]], but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more [[Template:StatBox]]'s side by side and see what happens.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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::Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup.  I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different.  Again thank you.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 
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ok  I am just used to put everything into different topics to make it more easier to read. Oh by the way how does it look so far.  I know I still have some things to add and replace with my information.  I am trying to take care a minor-major problem with the water line without gettiing a heat stroke. <br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
 
  
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== Modify the "New Page"-page ==
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It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)
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== Min MAX Crafted statistics ==
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Hello, I don't think this is a good idea for 2 reasons. First, the pages code is becoming too complex and second, the quality label of a craft is related to the total gain compared to the uncrafted item. So basicaly, for most items with multiple crafted statistics, the minimum value for any stat is the bas euncrafted value for up to average or good items. I think it is better to give a "typical" value (and warn than actual values may vary...). Well, just my own .02€.
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-[[User:Phoxtrot|Phoxtrot]] 22:10, 16 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#aaa">This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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::<span style="color:#060">It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside [[Template:Item]], but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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If you changed somethings in my profile thank you. I am trying to get things done. Hope your day is going alright.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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<font color="blue">As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)<br>
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But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.<br>
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But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:<br>
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Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.<br>
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Perhaps there is a way i haven't thought of.<br>
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(If you need an example of the described problem, take a look at [[The_white_dragon#Guild_Tagged_Super_Elite_Sets]] and try to use your Template StatBox instead of The White Dragon ItemBox2.)</font>
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:<span style="color:#060">I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any <tt>z-index</tt> into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means [[Template:StatBox]] cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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::<font color="blue">yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...<br>
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::but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.</font>{{PDASig}}
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:::<span style="color:#060">That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to [[Template:StatBoxStat]] and then pass it to there from another parameter in [[Template:StatBox]]. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike [[Template:EnhancementBar]]).</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I added another column on the Player Profile page Buff section and it messed up the Player Profile page a little. Can you take a look and see what I did or did not do to make the Player Profile page look like it does. Thanks <br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.
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:<span style="color:#060">You need to remember to make sure you didn't make any mistakes in the formatting. I removed a messed up line or two and fixed your colspans so it works properly now.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I have looked at the coding you have on Wiki Hints/Tips Page to see how on the right side you have the [hide] and [show] functions and I am not seeing it.  If you can just tell me where to go I am sure I can figure it out.  I was just wondering how is it looking so far.  I do know I still have work to do on it.  The members of my guild that have looked at it say it has helped them with some stuff in the game.  I do want to say thanks too since parts that I will be leaving in the profile are from you.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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:<span style="color:#060">To make a table collapsible it uses the code <tt>class="collapsible"</tt> and if you want it to load collapsed it uses <tt>class="collapsible collapsed"</tt>. Also, alot of things you're adding such as your pages [[User:DavidAHare/E and SE Creatures]] and [[User:DavidAHare/Gain]] are giving information that is redundant to what is already on the wiki. If you're going to have those pages, I would suggest linking to the main content pages for those specific topics since they contain much more information.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Concerning the pages [[User:DavidAHare/E and SE Creatures]] and [[User:DavidAHare/Gain]] I was trying to give some hints to the lower level members of the guild.  The format right now may not be the best way at this time but it is working for some of the lower level members in the guild.  Once I get some of the other pages completed and they only new some minor changes I will be looking at revamping those pages as well.  Right now I am trying to build a welcome page which will be the 1st page in my profile.  This welcome page would take the information I have at the top of my 1st page now and put it into a page by itself.  Also on the new 1st page I would have Section tabs then it would go to the tabs that are on the now.  Right now I am looking at 2 Section tabs General-Profile and Guild. Under the General-Profile I would put the 1st row of tabs I have now.  Under the Guild Tab I would put the 2nd row of tabs I have now.  I maybe getting to technical in building my profile.  1 problem I do have though is that I do not have a copy of each page/section in front of me to compare which makes it hard to change things sometimes.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one
  
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I have been working on my profile and have run into a few problems.  I got part of the problems fixed but can not find what is total wrong.
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:<span style="color:#060">That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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*1.) My welcome page has my signature section below the red line border.
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Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -[[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)
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*2.) On my medals book page the red border does not appear along where the medals section is.
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I am wondering what you think of my profile right now.  I do know that there are a few problems in it.  I also know I still have a few more things of yours to replace like the items in the backpack section.  I would like some feedback on my profile wether it is good or bad.  Again thanks for helping me with some of the minor problems I have had.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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== Champions ==
  
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:# <span style="color:#060">Put it inside the same cell as everything else and give it it's own table just like everything else inside that cell. Otherwise you're going to have to figure out how to make another cell and put it inside a table inside that cell.</span>
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I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?
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:# <span style="color:#060">I only took a quick glance, but it seems you either left something out or changed something.</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">You need to add <tt>|rarity=Champion</tt> for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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:# <span style="color:#060">The wiki help links are to external sources. I could have added alot more, but decided to only include the most relevant ones. The things on my wiki tips page are mine though.</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">Personally, I think you should be starting out small on your user pages. Contribute to the wiki, get to know the code and how it works, and eventually you'll be able to make a snazzy user page without being told how to do it or having someone fix your code. Also, there are alot of tabs up there... you're going to have to learn how to pass parameters to a template if you want the proper ones to be highlighted at the proper time. You could also consider changing some of the images to make it look different from mine.</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">I think the only thing that really bothers me is that you're using so many of my things that your user page almost seems like an extension of mine. I realize you have been putting in there that you copied things from mine, but it's so frequent that it's "Belgrave says this...", "Belgrave has this tip...", "Belgrave does this..." I know you're copying it straight from mine and it is allowed, but it just doesn't feel right to me. You might try personallizing everything to make it look a little different.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I understand what you are saying.  I have been trying to get rid of 90 to 95 percent of your stuff.  I am trying to have a link to your Wiki tips which I stuck on its own tab.  I have been trying to find different images for the tops of the tabs but I have not found the ones I want except the gold image.  I just have not found the page that holds all the images yet.  The part about fixing the code.  If you just show me how the could should be I learn better than if someone just goes in and fixes it themselves.  I also have a problem with my eyes focusing on the computer screen and the black letters get blurry sometimes and that is why I like someone else to look at what I have and let me know what I did wrong.  I am not trying to make excusses here, but I like to let people know what is going on especially since the meds I take affect my eyes to some degree.  Concerning the links I wanted to make sure the ones that went to stuff you made for example Templates for Items and stuff were properly recongnized and if the other links that went to places in the Wiki were yours then they would get the same recognition.  I know I have made this kind of big but that is the way I do somethings and it usually bites me in the but sometimes like now.  I have left some of the tabs named like they are so I know what the code is and just have to change a few things. 
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== Typos ==
  
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*The Tab row that has Welcome first I am trying to put anything that I want to copy from other profiles and or link to those profiles.
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Seems to be a popular typo.
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*The Tab row which starts with General is to be my information.  Which I have left the code in the Wiki Tab linked to your profile stuff even though I put a special Tab for that in the above Tab Row.  Now here comes the hard part.  The information you have in the Notices section I feel as you do even though I did not Found the Guild I am in but was made a Guild Founder. I am trying to figure a way to say the same thing but in a different way.  I also know that the 2 sections on the right were copied or linked to the information on the Wiki itself.
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*The final Tab row which starts with Guild Structures is to be about the guild I am in.  I also understand about the 2 pages you already discussed.  I am just trying to get the more inportant stuff done before working on them.
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I do not want you to feel that you have to be the one that needs to do the correcting of the code or codes in the page itself.  I can do the correcting of the code if you just tell me what is wrong and what/how to fix it.  I have also foound it is easier to put stuff on its own page and then put the page link in the code to make it more easier for me to figure out mistakes, which I have corrected alot of them myself.  I may have to stop working on my profile for awhile and then come back to it with a set of fresh eyes as I have learn to do.  <big>'''I do not want to become annoying here.  I just wanted some one with fresh eyes to see where I messed up.  If I become to annoying please let me know.'''</big>  I have also thought about saving it on a disc and then seeing if it would load up in a web browser to see what it would look like but the information that was linked to in the game and what was linked to in the Wiki would not show properly.  I see that I have typied alot of information and I am starting to ramble on so I had better stop typing and save this so it can be on its way.  Thanks for all the help you have given me.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.
  
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:<span style="color:#060">Take a deep breath, relax, and read #2 and #3 of ''[[User:Belgrave/Wiki Hints|Belgrave's Basic Words of Wiki Wisdom]]''. I know there have been some things on here which took me forever to figure out how to do, especially [[Template:ItemBox]]. I think I spent 2 months before I figured out a way to make that look the way it looks now.</span>
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Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves??  - zillerz
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:<span style="color:#aaa">It's Angal.</span>
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:<span style="color:#aaa">And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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::<span style="color:#060">If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.</span><pre>#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]</pre>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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:<span style="color:#060">You are still a guild founder whether you started the guild or if you were promoted to that position. The notice on my page was actually inspired by what someone else had in their player bio. I basically took that and made my own changes to it. The other things on the side were copied from somewhere else on the wiki, but I had initially written that too.</span>
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The name for this relic has been Leora Becon
  
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It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz
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:<span style="color:#060">Check the [http://www.fallensword.com/index.php?cmd=guild&subcmd=reliclist in-game relic list], it shows it as Leora Becon.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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:<span style="color:#060">I did make a number of changes on some of your pages while trying to figure out what was wrong with your main page, but those were inconsequential and didn't do anything. On the pages where the fixes were made, I did leave short comments to give some idea of what I did. You can also go into the page history to see the differences in the code side by side.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z
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:<span style="color:#060">If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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I do thank you for what you did and where to find the item images.  Right now I am taking a break from working on my profile.  That way when I come back to it I will have a fresh set of eyes to look at it.  Another reason is I needed to play the game more than I have been since I started the Wiki Profile.  Another reason is I am on more than the other Guild Founders and need to be there for the lower level members.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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The images I was talking about are the ones that are on the tabs themselves.  I was able to change 1 because I found an image of gold.  I found an image for the quest and medal pages.  I am about to forget the 1 question I wanted to ask.  <big>'''Is there a way or template made that will allow the stats to show up when you pass over it like in your game profile?'''</big>  I have found 2 ways to program the backpack stuff and I just thought it would be nice to be able to see if the item was crafted to and if it was hellforged.  If there isn't that is fine also.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak.  I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template gives.  Not a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals
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:<span style="color:#060">Those are the same images I was talking about. I got all of them from the [[Item Images]] pages. There is currently no way to hover over an item and get a popup with stats like in the game. However, now that I'm thinking about it, I might be able to cook up something really strange yet similar...</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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:<span style="color:#060">I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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You do not need to do something like that unless you want to.  I was just asking to see if there was before I worked on my backpack section.  What is the purpose of adding {{SUBST:User:DavidAHare/sigX}} in the nickname area of the profile preferences?<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it.  Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?
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:<span style="color:#060">That is is you can sign your talk posts by just putting <tt><nowiki>~~~</nowiki></tt> (3 tildas) at the end of it. Also, I did cook up a template that can show the stats of items, but there are problems with the z-index that I cannot work out (I think it is disabled by the wiki software) so it won't look good for items side by side and at this point, an inventory template using this out of the question. You can see more about it at [[Template:StatBox]].</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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How do you delete a page?  I tried something (I saw something on someone else's profile where they had their eguipment side by side) and it did not work so I am going back to the way it was which was alright even though it made the page longer.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}}
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Thanks for looking into it. - Tals
  
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:<span style="color:#060">Go to [[:Category:Delete]] and read the directions. Only Sysops (like myself) and Admins can delete pages.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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'''CSS Style Sheets'''
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i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki
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Can you use CSS Style sheets in the Wiki code to have something styled a certain way.
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<span style="color:#060">You cannot use external stylesheets since those are linked to in the page header and you can't put that into the wiki code, but you can add css to individual elements using <tt><nowiki>style=""</nowiki></tt>. If you look at the code on our user pages, you'll notice that there actually is alot of css in there.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== missing info/missing crafted ==
  
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I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max.  Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --[[User:Arieh|Arieh]] 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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<span style="color:#888">Hi.  About time I asked for help.</span><br>
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<span style="color:#888">If you haven't noticed already, I've begun the process of splitting up my profile page into different sections.  If you'd notice the edit links, you might come to realize that the one beside "Backpack" is not bolded while all the other ones are.  Perhaps you could look into that when you have the time, please?  Thanks.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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:<span style="color:#060">It's fixed now and all I changed was a <tt><nowiki>|</nowiki></tt> to a <tt>!</tt> ...gotta remember the difference between table headers and table cells.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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::There is such category now: [[:Category:Needs Stats]] which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put <nowiki>{{Needs Craft Stats}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Needs Stats}}</nowiki> on top of the page. --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)
  
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<span style="color:#888">Is there a way to make each stat optionally visible?  Say, if an item does not have the HP stat, can you make it not show up on the StatBox template?</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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== Quest Items ==
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:<span style="color:#060">Right now there is no way to do that. If we ever get Extension:Parserfunctions, then I'll add that in.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Question??? ==
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there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it.
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http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm
  
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How did you become a wiki sysop?
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:<span style="color:#060">I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals</span><br>
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:<span style="color:#060">HCS asked if I would take the position and I agreed.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Latest revision as of 10:03, 5 July 2009

Have problems or need to report someone in the game? If so, submit a ticket.

I deal with mostly wiki and occasional forum issues.



-Stares in awe-
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I got bored... I'm really just waiting for Extension:Parserfunctions before I do many more content edits and I didn't want to take much time to do maps today.
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Help with User Page

Question

Could you look at Template {{DAH Borrowed}} and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.
1 Make my information the primary information in the template.
2 Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.
3 Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member. For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

It can be done with Extention:ParserFunctions. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are: 
{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
{{#ifeq: <text 1> | <text 2> | <code if equal> | <code if not equal> }}
As for the name/id part, that would use a switch: 
{{#switch: <comparison value>
| <value1> = <result1>
| <value2> = <result2>
| ...
| #default = <default result>
}}
You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for creatures and items.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Thank You. I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.


Question

I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be. If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there. I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. Desolate Lands Travel Map
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


Question

I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.


Template:StatBox --- [{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>

Template:BPSlots6 Template:BPSlots7 -- [{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>


I am wondering why the difference between the 2. The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, Template:StatBox was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the name parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. Template:BPSlots6/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the link-1 parameter, or to Backpack if that parameter is not given.
I am assuming you want to give Template:BPSlots6/7/etc the same ability to display stats as Template:StatBox, but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more Template:StatBox's side by side and see what happens.
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Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup. I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different. Again thank you.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Modify the "New Page"-page

It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --Isakus 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)

Min MAX Crafted statistics

Hello, I don't think this is a good idea for 2 reasons. First, the pages code is becoming too complex and second, the quality label of a craft is related to the total gain compared to the uncrafted item. So basicaly, for most items with multiple crafted statistics, the minimum value for any stat is the bas euncrafted value for up to average or good items. I think it is better to give a "typical" value (and warn than actual values may vary...). Well, just my own .02€.

-Phoxtrot 22:10, 16 September 2008 (BST)

This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.
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It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside Template:Item, but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.
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Template:StatBox

As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)
But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.
But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:
Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.
Perhaps there is a way i haven't thought of.
(If you need an example of the described problem, take a look at The_white_dragon#Guild_Tagged_Super_Elite_Sets and try to use your Template StatBox instead of The White Dragon ItemBox2.)

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I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any z-index into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means Template:StatBox cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.
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yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...
but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.PDASig.PNG
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That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to Template:StatBoxStat and then pass it to there from another parameter in Template:StatBox. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike Template:EnhancementBar).
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Voodoo Zombie Rogue

Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.

Moving Pages

I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one

http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/The_Hunted_Cow_Tippers/Gear_201-300

Sinho6 02:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)

That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -Sinho6 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Champions

I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?

You need to add |rarity=Champion for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Thanks.

Typos

Seems to be a popular typo.

I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.

Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves?? - zillerz

It's Angal.
And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.
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If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.
#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

The name for this relic has been Leora Becon

It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz

Check the in-game relic list, it shows it as Leora Becon.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z

If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!
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Mysterious Portal Template

I was dreading adding in all the gold costs by hand, so very nice.

However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak. I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template gives. Not a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals

I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it. Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?

Thanks for looking into it. - Tals

hi

i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki

missing info/missing crafted

I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max. Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --Arieh 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

There is such category now: Category:Needs Stats which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put {{Needs Craft Stats}} or {{Needs Stats}} on top of the page. --Isakus 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Quest Items

there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it. http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm

I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals
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