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== Help with User Page ==
 
== Help with User Page ==
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'''<big>Question Here</big>'''  If I have missed this on the termplate page sorry. Is there a template or a way to just input a person's profile name and be sent to his or hers profile?<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 20:15, 11 September 2008 (BST)
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<big>'''Question'''</big>  <br><br> Could you look at Template <nowiki>{{DAH Borrowed}}</nowiki> and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.<br>
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:<span style="color:#060">I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about, but if you want to link to someone's user page, then use <tt><nowiki>[[User:Belgrave|Belgrave]]</nowiki></tt> which gives [[User:Belgrave|Belgrave]]. If you're linking to their game profile page, then use <tt><nowiki>[http://www.fallensword.com/index.php?cmd=profile&player_id=699681 Belgrave]</nowiki></tt> which gives [http://www.fallensword.com/index.php?cmd=profile&player_id=699681 Belgrave]. If you need more help, visit the help page for links I put on my user page.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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1 Make my information the primary information in the template.<br>
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2 Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.<br>
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3 Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member. For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare  Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
  
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:<span style="color:#060">It can be done with [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions Extention:ParserFunctions]. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are:</span>
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{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
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:<span style="color:#060">As for the name/id part, that would use a switch:</span>
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:<span style="color:#060">You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for [[Template:Creature|creatures]] and [[Template:Item|items]].</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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I was looking at just enterring their profile name and it would go to their profile.  I am trying to build a template which would show the Item Type, Item Name, Hellforge Lvl, Craft Lvl and Borrowed By.  I wanted to be able to input just their profile name under the Borrowed By heading and when some one clicked on the name it would go to their profile.  I will just have to think of a way to do it.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 20:50, 11 September 2008 (BST)
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Thank You.  I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.<br><br>
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:<span style="color:#060">Unless I am mistaken, you are trying to make a template that takes a player's name and links back to their in-game profile page. That is not possible since the in-game profile page goes by player ID number instead of the player name. If you wanted to do that, you'd need to make a template that requires both the player ID and the player name, perhaps something like</span><pre>[http://www.fallensword.com/index.php?cmd=profile&player_id={{{id}}} {{{name}}}]</pre>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I figured as much but I was not sure. I will figure a way to do what I want it to do.  I like what you have though, but I would have to have 19 templates for the 19 members of the guild.  I am sort of looking at something that you would have all the information already in the template because the higher the membership goes up the number of templates will also go up.  Plus I am also looking at if a member leaves or gets kicked then you would have to delete that template or am I seeing something that is not there.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 23:47, 11 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">The idea above would only require one template using the exact code I posted above. To use it, you'd put <tt><nowiki>{{TemplateName|id=699681|name=Belgrave}}</nowiki></tt> or whatever the ID and name of that specific player are. IF we had Extension:ParserFunctions already, it would be possible to make a template that would be able to choose an ID from a list based on the name passed to the template.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be.  If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there.  I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. [http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Desolate_Lands Desolate Lands Travel Map]<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
  
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I see.  I just need to sit back and stop for awhile on my little project.  I need to use your rules that you have in your Wiki tips.  {{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 00:02, 12 September 2008 (BST)
 
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:<span style="color:#060">Sit back... find something else to do... contribute to other areas of the wiki. There are many pages that need updated. Immerse yourself in the code, see how it works, and try becoming an expert. The [[Helping Out]] page can offer you a place to get started. Also, use my help links. I'd be embarrassed if I counted how many times I still need to look things up!</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
 
  
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Why when I try to use this code <nowiki>[[Gloves]]</nowiki> or any of the other Items it will not go to the page that <nowiki>{{Gloves}}</nowiki> goes to.  I know that <nowiki>{{Gloves}}</nowiki> is a template, because it says that at the bottom of the page.  I was trying to make an outline and it messes it up because the information on the next line has 2 ** in front of it.  I am going to try something like this <pre>[http://www.fallensword.com/index.php?cmd=profile&player_id={{{id}}} {{{name}}}]</pre> where I put the address to the page and then the name of the page and maybe it will correct it.   Here is an example of what is happening.<br>
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<big>'''Question'''</big> <br><br>
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*[[Gloves]]
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I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.
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**  [[Gloves of Airilos]] The above code <nowiki>[[Gloves]]</nowiki> will give the right way here,
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**  [[Gloves of Airilos]]  The code above this line <nowiki>{{Gloves}}</nowiki> gives an extra square in front of the name of the gloves.
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<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 02:31, 13 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">Templates automatically insert a newline at the end and that is why you are getting that. If you want to just make a link to a category, use <tt><nowiki>[[:Category:Gloves|Gloves]]</nowiki></tt>.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Thank You for the above information.  '''Question concerning StatBox Template'''  Is there a way to change the bacgrouind color of the stats area from black to white or a lighter color and also is there a way to include the Enhancements in there as well.  I am having trouble reading the information in that area.  I know there was information about adding different styles of how the information was displayed and such, but I do not remember if the 2 items I am wondering about were address.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 17:33, 13 September 2008 (BST)
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Template:StatBox --- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
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:<span style="color:#060">[[Template:Statbox]] is an advanced template and I don't recommend you use it if you don't know what you're doing. If you do want to use it, you can always look at the code to see where the parameters are applied. Right now there is no way to add in the enhancements or take out the unused stats. I'll probably be remaking that template when/if we get Extension:ParserFunctions.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Template:BPSlots7 -- <nowiki>[{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span></nowiki>
  
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'''Question concerning adding the editting funtion to a page/section'''  I understand how to make a page editable by having the + next to the page name.  But I tried to put this <nowiki>&action=edit edit or | action=edit</nowiki> and neither of them worked.  I have seen different sections in the new Item templates you have built.  Below is some of the code from the page which I did not use the <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki></nowiki> to show what I wanted to do.<br>
 
  
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I am wondering why the difference between the 2.  The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.<br>
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! colspan="4" align="center" style="background-color: #C38D37; -moz-border-radius:15px" | <!--Best Player (Want to be able to edit section with out having to edit whole page)-->
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{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)<br><br>
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:<span style="color:#060">Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, [[Template:StatBox]] was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the <tt>name</tt> parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the <tt>link-1</tt> parameter, or to [[Backpack]] if that parameter is not given.</span>
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<br> If this is not possible with the way I have writen the code then that is alright to. I just thought I would try to make it easier to edit.  I also may try to make this a template.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 19:30, 14 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">If you're not putting each one into a separate page, the only way to do that would be to make the headers into wiki section headers such as <tt><nowiki>==== Top 100 ====</nowiki></tt>. I'm not sure how well it would work, and it might not look too good either.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I inputed <tt><nowiki>==== Best Player ====</nowiki></tt> and <tt><nowiki><!--Best Player--></nowiki></tt> in to the code to input one thing and deleted one thing and it looks fine except for the line that gets put under Best Player.  I am going to assume that you have to save the page with each topic section like this <tt><nowiki>/* Best Player */ </nowiki></tt> in the Summary field.  I have found that my last sentence not to be correct but I have found that here in the talk page it shows the edit but on the my page in my profile I do not get the edit function.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 20:39, 14 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">I am assuming you want to give [[Template:BPSlots6]]/7/etc the same ability to display stats as [[Template:StatBox]], but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more [[Template:StatBox]]'s side by side and see what happens.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
  
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::Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup.  I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different.  Again thank you.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
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I may have found a way to make my tab area smaller, but I need to know if theses div classes will work in this Wiki.  Here they are.  <span style="color:#090"><tt>div class="NavFrame",</tt></span> <span style="color:#090"><tt>div class="NavHead",</tt></span> and <span style="color:#090"><tt>div class="NavContent"</tt></span>  I have found on another Wiki they did it by using these 3 div classes and other codes to go along with them.  I have not used scripts in the html pages I have built unless it was copied from another code so I am not to versed in that type of programing.  That is why I ask alot of questions dealing with that type of coding.  I also have not gotten into the more advanced programing styles.  All I have done is just the basic type of Web page programing and the WIKI is different then that so I am learning how to program in that way since some of what I do know of HTML programing does not work or works in a different way.  If the above div classes will not work then I think I may have a way to do something like what has been done on the other Wiki.<br>{{User:DavidAHare/Sig}} 17:54, 16 September 2008 (BST)
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== Modify the "New Page"-page ==
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It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)
  
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How did you become a wiki sysop?
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== Min MAX Crafted statistics ==
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:<span style="color:#060">HCS asked if I would take the position and I agreed.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Hello, I don't think this is a good idea for 2 reasons. First, the pages code is becoming too complex and second, the quality label of a craft is related to the total gain compared to the uncrafted item. So basicaly, for most items with multiple crafted statistics, the minimum value for any stat is the bas euncrafted value for up to average or good items. I think it is better to give a "typical" value (and warn than actual values may vary...). Well, just my own .02€.
  
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:<span style="color:#aaa">This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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::<span style="color:#060">It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside [[Template:Item]], but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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| To split up pages into stuff like User:Belgrave/Components, does it have to be a template? - [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 00:41, 2 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">It isn't an actual template since it isn't <tt>Template:Pagename</tt>, but it works the same way as a template since you use <tt><nowiki>{{User:Belgrave/Pagename}}</nowiki></tt> on the page you want to put it into. I find it to be useful since I can then add lots of content and not have to sort through too much code when I want to edit it... For example, [[User:Belgrave/Profile]] would be a nightmare if I didn't have it split up so each section was a different page.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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So, is there a specific way to make those pages or do you just treat them as regular pages and simply make them? [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 01:18, 2 September 2008 (BST)
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== Template:StatBox ==
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:<span style="color:#060">They're made the same as any other page.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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<font color="blue">As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)<br>
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How do you hide specific parts of a page? [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 20:08, 7 September 2008 (BST)
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But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.<br>
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:<span style="color:#060">You make a table with the following code and put everything you want to hide inside it.
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But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:<br>
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Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.<br>
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:<span style="color:#060">I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any <tt>z-index</tt> into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means [[Template:StatBox]] cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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::<font color="blue">yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...<br>
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::but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.</font>{{PDASig}}
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:::<span style="color:#060">That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to [[Template:StatBoxStat]] and then pass it to there from another parameter in [[Template:StatBox]]. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike [[Template:EnhancementBar]]).</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Okay, I added a new page called [[The Hunted Cow Tippers/Gear 1-100]], how do I incorporate it into the main page? ([[The Hunted Cow Tippers]]) [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 20:46, 7 September 2008 (BST)
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Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.
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:<span style="color:#060">Put <tt><nowiki>{{The Hunted Cow Tippers/Gear 1-100}}</nowiki></tt> where you want it on [[The Hunted Cow Tippers]] page.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Okay, I tried that, but all it does is write "Template:The Hunted Cow Tippers/Gear 1-100" with a link to a page that doesn't exist. Could you help me out? It's under the Gear section of [[The Hunted Cow Tippers|this page]]. [[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 20:59, 7 September 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">My bad... apparently you need a colon (:) at the front since it's in the Main namespace so it would be <tt><nowiki>{{:The Hunted Cow Tippers/Gear 1-100}}</nowiki></tt>.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one
  
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<span style="color:#600">Is it possible to have any link that goes to my profile to end up [[User:CHiNback/Notices|here]]?</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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:<span style="color:#060">Only if your profile redirects to that... Alternatively, you can go through the entire wiki and edit every page that links to your profile so it links to that instead.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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[[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)
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:<span style="color:#060">That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -[[User:Sinho6|Sinho6]] 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)
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I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?
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:<span style="color:#060">You need to add <tt>|rarity=Champion</tt> for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.
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Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves??  - zillerz
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:<span style="color:#aaa">It's Angal.</span>
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:<span style="color:#aaa">And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.</span><br>{{User:CHiNback/Sig}}
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::<span style="color:#060">If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.</span><pre>#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]</pre>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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The name for this relic has been Leora Becon
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It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz
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:<span style="color:#060">Check the [http://www.fallensword.com/index.php?cmd=guild&subcmd=reliclist in-game relic list], it shows it as Leora Becon.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z
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:<span style="color:#060">If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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== Mysterious Portal Template ==
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I was dreading adding in all the gold costs by hand, so very nice. 
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However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak.  I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template gives.  Not a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals
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:<span style="color:#060">I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.</span><br>{{User:Belgrave/Sig}}
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Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it.  Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth.  Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?
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Thanks for looking into it.  - Tals
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== hi ==
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i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki
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== missing info/missing crafted ==
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I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max.  Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --[[User:Arieh|Arieh]] 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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::There is such category now: [[:Category:Needs Stats]] which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put <nowiki>{{Needs Craft Stats}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>{{Needs Stats}}</nowiki> on top of the page. --[[User:Isakus|Isakus]] 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)
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== Quest Items ==
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there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it.
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http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm
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:<span style="color:#060">I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals</span><br>

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I got bored... I'm really just waiting for Extension:Parserfunctions before I do many more content edits and I didn't want to take much time to do maps today.
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Help with User Page

Question

Could you look at Template {{DAH Borrowed}} and tell me how hard it would be to the following additions.
1 Make my information the primary information in the template.
2 Make the just the items that have information added to the variables show up.
3 Make a list in the template variables of the members of the guild and their profile number and then make a number that would correspond to a specific member. For example I will use my information Name DavidAHare Profile Id Number 1650921 so my profile name would be 1 and my profile Id number would be 1A and then the next member would be 2 and 2A and so on.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 04:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

It can be done with Extention:ParserFunctions. However, it's a very steep learning curve. The two basic ones you need are: 
{{#if: <condition string> | <code if true> | <code if false> }}
{{#ifeq: <text 1> | <text 2> | <code if equal> | <code if not equal> }}
As for the name/id part, that would use a switch: 
{{#switch: <comparison value>
| <value1> = <result1>
| <value2> = <result2>
| ...
| #default = <default result>
}}
You can find an examples of both of these in many of the templates we use for creatures and items.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Thank You. I will look at the page you reference and see if I can learn how to do it and then decide if I want to try and upgrade the template I made.


Question

I was wondering if the Travel Map was in wiki code or some other type of code. I am looking at trying to do something similar but to show how the rank structure will be. If you can point me to the page the code is on and I will take it from there. I have included a reference to the a page that has the Travel Map on it. Desolate Lands Travel Map
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 03:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


Question

I have looked at the Template:StatBox and the Template:BPSlots6/Template:BPSlots7 and have found the following differences to where the image of the item sits.


Template:StatBox --- [{{fullurl:{{{name|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}}} {{{image|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>

Template:BPSlots6 Template:BPSlots7 -- [{{fullurl:{{{link-1|Backpack}}}}} {{{item-1|http://wiki.fallensword.com/images/f/f3/Invisiblespacer.gif}}}]</span>


I am wondering why the difference between the 2. The reason I am asking this is because I am looking at combining the 2 templates into 1. I also know that it would make the template longer because there would be more variables in the template.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 08:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Without looking into the templates themselves and considering that I have been away from the wiki for several months, I believe the difference is because the templates are for two different things. Specifically, Template:StatBox was designed to show the stats of an individual item, and that code you posted here changes the image into a link if the name parameter is given, or into a non-functional link to the same page if that parameter is not given. Template:BPSlots6/7/etc provides a link to the item's page using the link-1 parameter, or to Backpack if that parameter is not given.
I am assuming you want to give Template:BPSlots6/7/etc the same ability to display stats as Template:StatBox, but I assure you that has been tried and failed. The problem is that the stat tables always go behind the next images over so it's partially hidden. There is no way to currently fix this. To see what I mean, put two or more Template:StatBox's side by side and see what happens.
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Thank you for answering my question and yes I was wanting to try and use it like how Template:BPSlots6/7 is setup. I understand what you are saying and will have to figure out something different. Again thank you.
   DavidAHare,Talk • Message • PM 19:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Modify the "New Page"-page

It would be nice if the page that appears when creating a new page (or even editing an existing) could contain links to some relevant templates (similar to what your "New Page Layouts" blob on your user page shows). --Isakus 23:22, 4 July 2009 (BST)

Min MAX Crafted statistics

Hello, I don't think this is a good idea for 2 reasons. First, the pages code is becoming too complex and second, the quality label of a craft is related to the total gain compared to the uncrafted item. So basicaly, for most items with multiple crafted statistics, the minimum value for any stat is the bas euncrafted value for up to average or good items. I think it is better to give a "typical" value (and warn than actual values may vary...). Well, just my own .02€.

-Phoxtrot 22:10, 16 September 2008 (BST)

This isn't too bad an idea, but keep in mind that the values are there to have a more accurate result.
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It's mostly the way it is to show the available range of values for that specific level of crafting. If we tied it to a specific value, then someone would have to sit down and calculate an average, something which is hard to do without a very large sampling. I have considered adding a calculator that does that into the template, but then again, it's still reliant on the min and max available values for each stat in that crafting level. As for the page's code, it's complex inside Template:Item, but since the template is working, it's easier for people to contribute since they only have to fill in the blanks.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Template:StatBox

As i have seen, you made some changes to that Template. First i have noticed that you included some new parameters and functions and second i noticed that you also integrated a link for the image as i wanted to have it :-)
But you should take a look at your profile-page now. It's a bit messed up.
But my original reason for disturbing your work of changing all Item pages is:
Can you change the Template in a way that the hidden table will be in front of the next image which is for example next to it but behind the hidden table of the item next to it? Because i wanted to have it the way it is now too, but i had some problems with putting items side by side. If i would do so and the hidden table is that wide as yours is now, it would be behind the second image. So it's kind of difficult to see the informations... Thats why i made my Template only with one column.
Perhaps there is a way i haven't thought of.
(If you need an example of the described problem, take a look at The_white_dragon#Guild_Tagged_Super_Elite_Sets and try to use your Template StatBox instead of The White Dragon ItemBox2.)

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I know the problem with the new statbox and a fix is almost completed. As for the hidden table showing up behind other items on the page, that is something that cannot be fixed. It seems the wiki software ignores if you put any z-index into the css so I can't do anything about it, partially why I have everything on my combat sets page lined up vertically on the left side. It also means Template:StatBox cannot be integrated into any of the inventory/backpack templates.
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yes, i wanted to use z-index too, but it didn't work the way i wanted. thats why i asked...
but i have an other request: can you add some parameters for the set stats? then it really looks the way it does in fs.PDASig.PNG
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That is on top the To-Do list for that template, but that's near the bottom of my wiki priority list... Feel free to add that in yourself. You'd need to add the parameter to Template:StatBoxStat and then pass it to there from another parameter in Template:StatBox. I was going to eventually add in all kinds of style formatting for the whole thing, but it's complicated and with the limited functionality with not being able to use the z-index, it probably isn't worth adding in too many goodies that won't be used very much (unlike Template:EnhancementBar).
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Voodoo Zombie Rogue

Hey Belgrave. Yes I verified that the in game spelling of the creature is now Voodoo Zombie Rogue, not Voodoo Zombie Rouge.

Moving Pages

I noticed that some of the guild's pages (The Hunted Cow Tippers) have been moved to Guild:Page. Great job! However, I think you missed one

http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/The_Hunted_Cow_Tippers/Gear_201-300

Sinho6 02:41, 25 October 2008 (BST)

That was actually the first one I moved and I only noticed them since you edited it! The hard part is moving all the guild pages that I don't know about.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Ah, ok then. I can see why it would be hard to find guild pages to move. Good thing I edited it then :P -Sinho6 02:53, 25 October 2008 (BST)

Champions

I was adding creatures in Ralthien, but Ralthien Dragon Lord (Champion) did not link to Category: Champion Beasts. Even after I edited it into the drop list. Is there a better way to start a new page?

You need to add |rarity=Champion for it to be in the Champion Beasts category. I fixed it for you.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Thanks.

Typos

Seems to be a popular typo.

I inadvertantly created area Mortugas Lair; Made that correction and corrected images labels for Mortugus items, but I dont know how to remove the incorrect page.

Also just to check, is the area Angal Caves or Angel Caves?? - zillerz

It's Angal.
And only people with Sysop-ive rights can delete pages, along with other things.
                 CHiNback - [ Talk - Message - PM ]
If it's a popular typo, or a typo period, just have all the wrong pages redirect to the correct spelling.
#REDIRECT [[Correct Spelling]]
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

The name for this relic has been Leora Becon

It should probably be Beacon. Not sure how to weed out all the occurrences. - zillerz

Check the in-game relic list, it shows it as Leora Becon.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Right and the conceling Mists of Concelment, too! Well we might as well copy the in-game typos, double confusion makes it cancel out. - z

If I took the time to mention just half of the typos in the game... Well, let's just keep the wiki matching what's in the game and make redirects for things that are easily spelled correctly, like those two!
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Mysterious Portal Template

I was dreading adding in all the gold costs by hand, so very nice.

However, the gold cost calculation might need a minor tweak. I haven't checked other portals but for the Plateau Portal all destinations from levels 521 to 551 are 1 gold more expensive in the game than the template gives. Not a big deal I know, but maybe the cost formula could be double-checked when the new destinations get added? - Tals

I actually noticed this problem when I first figured out the formula and made the template for the portals but haven't yet figured out why some portals have that extra tiny cost. I could add in another parameter which would allow you to add that little extra bit, but I'm not sure if it would need to be applied to the entire template or just to specific areas.
— Belgrave, Moderator / Sysop  Talk  Message PM 

Meh, if it can't be done easily to match all portals all the time it probably isn't worth it. Manually tweaking of individual portals for the sake of 1 gold sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Maybe just add a disclaimer that there may be small errors in the displayed gold cost?

Thanks for looking into it. - Tals

hi

i have an ideia for a new adition. can u contact me when u read this? preferable my PM ingame or forum since i'm a newbie at wiki

missing info/missing crafted

I have noticed there are a large number of items in missing info that are only missing crafted min/max. Could we create a separate missing for these items? this will allow us to know better which items really have missing critical info. --Arieh 00:57, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

There is such category now: Category:Needs Stats which includes all item pages that needs stat improvements. To mark a page for that category, put {{Needs Craft Stats}} or {{Needs Stats}} on top of the page. --Isakus 11:03, 5 July 2009 (BST)

Quest Items

there is a quest item that is used for 2 recipes but i dont' know how to add it. http://wiki.fallensword.com/index.php/Soul_Keeper_Ectoplasm

I think the template is already set up to handle this, I tried it and recipe-used-2 looks to be a valid entry field - Tals
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